Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Bearing surface failure

  1. Dec 16, 2016 #1
    I am doing surface failure analysis for a ball bearing SKF 6025, , as an exercise, It has been used in the washing machine tub, after some time a noise has been reported and it is no longer rotating. When i got it I opened the seal and captured the attached photo. I had a feeling that it suffers rust corrosion, but I wasn't sure if it is rust or just old grease. I soaked it overnight in a gasoline basin to dissolve the grease and see if it is rusted or not. I captured image number 2 but I don't feel it is rust. What do u think ?
    IMG_1481871094.181754.jpg IMG_1481871094.181754.jpg
    IMG_1481871886.219411.jpg
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Dec 16, 2016 #2

    Baluncore

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    It looks like soap and dirty water has been leaking through a failed seal to the bearing, where it has accumulated and dried to some extent. If the grease does not dissolve in petrol, then it is not an oil based grease. Soap is not usually dissolved by petrol. Is the paste you call grease actually a water soluble soap ?

    The ball cage has failed, it looks like a rivet has corroded, there appears to be red iron oxide there. That may be due to electrolytic action between the rivet and cage. What are the rivet and cage materials.

    In what position was the bearing being used in the washing machine ?
    What was the position relative to the agitator seal, or any other seals ?
     
  4. Dec 16, 2016 #3

    Baluncore

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    The two top pictures are the same.

    I see a step in the outer race that held the seal. The full part number text is hard to read. How was this SKF 6025 sealed, was it a metal screen, typically a Z or ZZ suffix? Or was it a rubber seal, typically an R, RR, 2R or R2 suffix? A description of the seal and a photograph of the seal and sealing surface would help.

    In the third picture I see no sign of a rubber lip seal contacting the inner ball race. If it was rubber sealed, then that lip seal failed first, allowed entry of water with contaminants, which then damaged the ball race surfaces and corroded the cage rivets.

    It is quite difficult to guess what the composition of the brown 'grease' might be, based only on a photograph.
     
  5. Dec 18, 2016 #4
    please see if the part is a genuine one.
    usually the bearing that are used are done so on the basis of a good designing process.
    the usage is definitely one of the factors which has its part in this analysis, that cannot be ruled out.
     
  6. Dec 21, 2016 #5
    I think the listed part number is wrong, it's a 6205 judging by what I can read in the last picture, just to the right of the pliers (you transposed a pair of numbers)

    Anything that fails that operates near water, failed seals are the first thing to look it.. There is definitely corrosion on there. Any designer worth his salt would put an additional seal (and an air gap/drain) between the bearing and the water... You'd certainly never rely on the bearings integral seal to do any of that.. it's purpose is to keep the grease in.
     
  7. Dec 23, 2016 #6

    Baluncore

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    Touch the brown paste with a hot soldering iron. If it melts it is grease. If it pops or hisses it contains water.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Draft saved Draft deleted



Similar Discussions: Bearing surface failure
  1. Bearing cage failure (Replies: 16)

  2. Bearing failure (Replies: 4)

  3. Ball Bearing Surfaces (Replies: 2)

Loading...