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Becoming Software Engineer/Network Administrator with 2 minor felonies

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Is it possible to become a software engineer/Developer or network administrator for a descent company with B.Sc in Computer Science 3.5 Gpa with 2 felonies 1 for shop lifting at age of 18 and 1 for document forgery, ID cards to be exact at age of 20 and serving 12 months of probation for each felony?
 

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You'll probably have very hard time finding job. The thing that sucks is that you did something most of the teenagers do, but I guess you had bad luck and got caught by the cops. It really, really sucks! :frown:
 
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Its going to be a lil hard. Sensitive electronic information and forgery is not a good combonation but you won't know for sure unless you try :D
 
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I can't find a job in the tech industry with a B.S. in C.S. so I doubt if you could either with felonies on your record.
 
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I have a friend who is a software developer for a major company, he graduated from my school last year, he says he spoke with somebody within the company and he was told that shop lifting they won't care about and forgery I could say i used forged ID to buy alcohol and got cought, was a stupid teenager. On the other hand, in such competitive field who is even going to want to listen to my excuses. Only 3 semesters left.... yeah I guess I'll never know until I try. :frown:
 
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Right now, it's rough out there for people with CS degrees, years of experience, solid references, and clean records. I can only guess that it would be even harder with no experience and a record. I would think you would have a slightly easier time as a programmer then a system admin. System administrator is a position of immense trust, your record could disqualify you for many positions like that.
 
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How bad does it look to graduate schools having something on your school record, such as a simple hack gone wrong? Like.....say you forged a classmate's email address, sending it to the teacher having it say that the student wants to drop the course. Will this scare graduate schools away even if it happened your freshmen year?
 
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Like.....say you forged a classmate's email address, sending it to the teacher having it say that the student wants to drop the course.
Why did you do that? That's pretty mean.
 
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I couldn't help myself. I thought it was hilarious. I planned to watch it unfold sometime during class, but they didn't talk. But hey I could have done something worse, like forge the teacher's address and send a mass mail to the entire class..."Class is cancelled tomorrow". :biggrin:
 
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In that case, I would hope that a grad school takes it into consideration. Whether you thought it was hilarious or not, it was a pretty malicious act.
 
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Yea it probably was. The guy didn't even know his own email password. I eventually told him I did it. He laughed. I learned one thing though, not to let my curiosity run me. Hopefully graduate schools will just ask for an explanation and understand.
 
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Tony11235 said:
I couldn't help myself. I thought it was hilarious. I planned to watch it unfold sometime during class, but they didn't talk. But hey I could have done something worse, like forge the teacher's address and send a mass mail to the entire class..."Class is cancelled tomorrow". :biggrin:
.... that should have been an immediate expulsion from the university.
 
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Pengwuino said:
.... that should have been an immediate expulsion from the university.
You're joking right? For something like that?
 
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Yeah, some things & people should just loosen up, in the big picture pranks are pranks.
 
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Tony11235 said:
I couldn't help myself. I thought it was hilarious. I planned to watch it unfold sometime during class, but they didn't talk. But hey I could have done something worse, like forge the teacher's address and send a mass mail to the entire class..."Class is cancelled tomorrow". :biggrin:
You should have made it a little less...serious...lol...like what I did was I got into my friends email account and I just sent a fake email to a few other friends. All I'll say is they were all pretty confused until I told them what I did...Oh, and I modified his start-up folder so that when he logged in about 60 pop-up windows would appear consecutively...bogged down the computer quite a bit.
 
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Large companies are VERY big on ethics. Which is what you're making light of.

Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX) compliance means that if you try to work for a publicly traded company, they will check your background, and they will actually verify everything on your resume. I had a Q-clearance from the department of Energy, and my company still spent two weeks verifying who I was and what I had done.

Any felony will disqualify you from working at a publicly traded company. Period.
 
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Pardon Services

Hint... I know in Canada we have something called pardon services. A few years after your felony you can approach this government branch and get a pardon, basically they will erase it from your record. Especially since you are getting educated and are on track to a good life I am sure you would have a good chance. They are things you have done at a younger age, and by the time you graduate you will be 24-25 they will have 4 or 5 years behind you. I don't know how the US does this, but it is a very good and real option. John.

http://www.pardonservicescanada.com/
 
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OK after a quick search not so easy in the US. The president or in some cases governer must grant a pardon. But it is possible if you put some work into it, you have a strong case and would be stupid not to do everything in your power to get this behind you.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Large companies are VERY big on ethics. Which is what you're making light of.

Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX) compliance means that if you try to work for a publicly traded company, they will check your background, and they will actually verify everything on your resume. I had a Q-clearance from the department of Energy, and my company still spent two weeks verifying who I was and what I had done.

Any felony will disqualify you from working at a publicly traded company. Period.
You're refering to Varus, the one who started this thread, right? Me, I have no record.
 
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It might be helpful to stop calling them "minor felonies"! A "felony", by definition, is not minor. What you are talking about are "misdemeanors".
 
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OK after a quick search not so easy in the US. The president or in some cases governer must grant a pardon.
That's because we wouldn't use the word "pardon" for removing felony records. Pardon is a total removal of guilt; you would even be freed from prison, and only a governor or president can do that.

Do a google search for "record expungement" and you will get plenty of information for getting rid of your felonies. The laws are different in each state.

In fact, the reason I know is because the key words in this discussion are triggering a google add for record expungement at the top of the screen. :smile:
 
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ludi_srbin said:
You'll probably have very hard time finding job. The thing that sucks is that you did something most of the teenagers do, but I guess you had bad luck and got caught by the cops. It really, really sucks! :frown:
Most teenagers don't shoplift over $100 of goods, which is what is required for it to be a felony. In fact, most teenagers don't shoplift at all.

As for the ID forgery, I wouldn't say 'most' do that either.

To be quite honest, I would be wary about hiring you if I was an employer. However, it depends on how long its been since you've commited the crimes.
 
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Tony11235 said:
I couldn't help myself. I thought it was hilarious. I planned to watch it unfold sometime during class, but they didn't talk. But hey I could have done something worse, like forge the teacher's address and send a mass mail to the entire class..."Class is cancelled tomorrow". :biggrin:
It seems to me that ou don't even feel sorry for what you did, and you must completely lack ethic. If I were to decide if you got into grad school, you wouldn't be going.
 
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leright said:
It seems to me that ou don't even feel sorry for what you did, and you must completely lack ethic. If I were to decide if you got into grad school, you wouldn't be going.
I meant at the time I thought it was hilarious. I'm not laughing now am I.
 
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leright said:
It seems to me that ou don't even feel sorry for what you did, and you must completely lack ethic. If I were to decide if you got into grad school, you wouldn't be going.
... moral "branding" on the basis of something like this ... :surprised . A single bit world.....
 

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