it seems like there's a lot of importance placed on making your mark on the world and being remembered. why is that? why does it matter to people sooo much? why does how we affect the future world effect us so much?
actually, i'm guilty of wanting a legacy. since i was young i'd always say things like, 'remember my name, it'll be famous someday' and 'no matter what i do, i'll be in the textbooks' and i was always certain that 'one day, i'll have my very own special on the biography channel'But I agree with you, to me the idea holds no significance. After all, if you're not there to witness it, what's the point? And likewise, if we do remain conscious in some sense after death, then what's the point of 'immortality' through being remembered? I think it's just an extension of people's egos. But if there's any valuable lesson to be learned in life, it's that the ego is just the tip of the existential iceberg.
That has got to be the stupidest comment I have ever heard. Do you suppose if no one had remembered slavery in this country the world would not be any different than it currently is? Being remembered has EVERYTHING to do with the future. Timothy McVeigh will be remembered. BinLaden will be remembered. Get the picture? They say that fish have such a short memory that they can be caught twice on a hook within a minute. Do you suppose a better memory would affect their future?Originally posted by Glok
Being remembered has nothing to do with affecting the future. ;)
Ok, i suppose that if it is an innate instinct, then that answers my original question well enough. but improving society? is that some innate charictaristic of being human? I don't know if people really caring about improving things so much as just changing it, for better or worse. just making some difference in one way or another.We all want to die thinking that our presence on this planet made a difference. It is one of our innate instincts, closely associated with procreation. Without those two instincts, evolution would not have worked and the human society would have collapsed because no one would be interested in improving it.
Ego is our immediate gain from helping to improve things: you do it cause it makes you feel good about yourself. But I also beleive that we evolved specifically in such a way that our ego demands that we work to improve society. Thus while to the individual ego is a very personal source of pleasure, on the evolutionary scale it is a tool for improving society.Originally posted by Gale17
Ok, i suppose that if it is an innate instinct, then that answers my original question well enough. but improving society? is that some innate charictaristic of being human? I don't know if people really caring about improving things so much as just changing it, for better or worse. just making some difference in one way or another.
i think the best answer so far is just EGO. i just can't understand ego i suppose. why would certain things (like being remembered: EGO) matter to us at all?