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News Ben Carson Running for President

  1. Sep 2, 2015 #1

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    Ben Carson seems to be rising in the polls, and he seems to be running on the issues. I hope he stays on the issues and doesn't resort to negative campaigning against the others running for president.

    Ben Carson on the issues: Inside the mind of the retired neurosurgeon surging in polls, rivaling Trump
    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ben-carson-on-the-issues-inside-the-mind-of-the-128202264151.html

    Chris Cillizza, Washington Post, September 2 - Ben Carson ‘is the smartest man I have ever met’
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-carson-is-the-smartest-man-i-have-ever-met/

    I've heard some interviews, and he sounded thoughtful, which is a pleasant relief from a lot of the nonsense I've heard from some folks.
     
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  3. Sep 3, 2015 #2
    We have a tradition in this country of electing the dumbest man for president, not the smartest. This doesn't bode well for his campaign -- or for us come to think of it.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2015 #3

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  5. Sep 4, 2015 #4

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    Nixon and Clinton are routinely described as brilliant by biographers and other first hand observers, far smarter than their opposition.
     
  6. Sep 8, 2015 #5
    Bush, Obama, Reagan.

    Yes we occasionally elect a smart man, but it's not a qualification as far as I can tell. Nor do smarter men always do a significantly better job. Nixon had to resign and Reagan was near the top of the list -- with dementia.

    Being president is far more about people skills than IQ.
     
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  8. Sep 8, 2015 #7

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    What's the source of that claim?

    According to a Wikipedia article (to be subject to vigorous verification, but it seems various newspapers report Bennet as campaign manager), Barry Bennet is the campaign manager. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson_presidential_campaign,_2016

    Nevertheless, when a headline of a paper or blog uses a superlative in the qualification of a person, then one should be skeptical of such a claim. I take superlatives as an indication of a subjective statement.
     
  9. Sep 9, 2015 #8

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    I could never vote for a Young Earth Creationist. That shows a serious disconnect from reality. If one of your axioms is that the earth is about 6000 years old... that can't lead to good policy.
     
  10. Sep 9, 2015 #9
    Or a lack of study in scientific fields.

    While Young Earthers will likely set poor science policy, so will other non-scientists. Politics is a separate area of expertise and there's rarely much overlap with the "real world".

    Getting people to work together is like herding cats. It requires crazy skills. I suspect the ability to hold many contrary opinions is one of them.
     
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  12. Sep 9, 2015 #11

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    Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist and apparently rejects evolution, which could be problematic for some. It certainly would be a concern about his views on scientific policy questions.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...cement-speech/2012/05/08/gIQAi0vsBU_blog.html

    Of particular concern
    On the other hand, I appreciate the fact that he doesn't speak disparagingly about the other candidates, at least from what I've heard so far. He seems to have a positive message.
     
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  13. Sep 9, 2015 #12

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    https://www.physicsforums.com/search/1871819/?q=science+policy&o=relevance&c[title_only]=1
    There're four threads come up searching for titles containing "science policy" (all flops),
    https://www.physicsforums.com/search/1871883/?q=scientific+policy
    and 186 containing "scientific policy" (very few of which, first three pages, appear to be at all relevant to the search terms); do we really want to wander down that dead end again? Or, can we discuss Carson as a candidate?
     
  14. Sep 9, 2015 #13
    According to the article you gave as a link, the words "DBC is the smartest man I have ever met" were uttered by Ben's campaign manager, Barry Bennet. Chris Cilliza was the reporter.
     
  15. Sep 9, 2015 #14

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    There's more to worry about Carson other than his anti-science beliefs.

    continued...

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/right-wing-neurosurgeon-ben-carson-enters-2016-race
     
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  16. Sep 9, 2015 #15

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    OK - let me rephrase. While I appreciate the fact that he doesn't speak disparagingly about the other candidates, I don't appreciate his over-the-top or out-there comments. How on earth does he tie the "womens' liberation" movement or 'feminisim' to 'lack of respect for authority', 'the me generation', out-of-wedlock births and violence in various communities?

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...nt-created-me-generation-helped-lead-ferguson

    Unfortunately, he demonstrates a lack of critical thinking. He should be correcting the hosts who are interviewing him. Oh, well.
     
  17. Sep 9, 2015 #16

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    "Stop The Right Wing!!", gimme money, says that banner block add on that Carson web reference. Should I contribute before collecting dubious facts from the journalists at Right Wing Watch?
     
  18. Sep 9, 2015 #17

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    Well, there are links back to the original articles...he really did say all of those crazy things.
     
  19. Sep 9, 2015 #18

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    I simply linked to the video in order to hear Carson in his own words, in order to determine whether he actually said what was attributed to him. I heard what he said in his own words, in his own voice.

    It's kind of interesting that the video of Lauren Steward's interview with Ben Carson is not on AFR or some other media organization.

    Here it is on youtube - (but with an RWW logo).

    So where is the video on a non-partisan site, or even a Fox, or AFR/AFA site?
     
  20. Sep 9, 2015 #19

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