What determines the starting point of a bending moment diagram?

In summary, the conversation discusses the reason why the BM diagram starts at -4kNm instead of 4kNm. The convention adopted is that a bending moment causing tension on top of the beam is negative. The sign of a bending moment is not related to whether it is clockwise or anticlockwise, but rather whether it causes a hogging or sagging effect. The conversation also mentions an app that can be used to find shear forces and moments, and shows how to find these functions and draw diagrams.
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In the bottom left, why does the BM diagram start at -4kNm rather than 4kNm? I understand that if you make a cut you yield this result but if you don't make a cut how would you know whether it starts at -4kNm or 4kNm?

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By convention. They have assumed that a bending moment causing tension on top of the beam is -ve.
 
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Aren't clock-wise moments assumed to be negative?
 
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Two things:

1) I think you might be confusing the moment applied externally to a body with that of an internal bending moment. An internal bending moment is usually given a sign convention that depends on whether it causes tension on the top of a beam or on the bottom of a beam. In this specific case the convention adopted here is a bending moment is +ve if it causes tension on the bottom of the beam.

2) You can apply any convention as long as you are always consistent throughout. So if you define a clockwise moment as +ve than that is perfectly fine. Just don't switch back to a -ve clockwise convention later. That being said, you are right that a standard convention used by many is to assume a clockwise moment is -ve.
 
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If you have device work on Android, you can download Shear Forces Bending Moments app from Google play. This is a link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hakan.mnq
This app finds shear forces and moments functions by using the method of sections and draws diagrams of these functions for isostatic straight beam. Calculation steps are shown in orderly.
 
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Nugso, the sign of a bending moment is not related to whether it is clockwise or anticlockwise. After all, if you were to go round to the other side of the beam, it would still be bending the same way. The test is whether the effect is a hogging or a sagging effect. Sign conventions vary around the world rather more than you would think, and there are fierce defenders of some of them. Think of whether the tension is on top (hogging) or underneath (sagging). If you are dealing with a column, then you will have to choose point of view (just as you do for a beam, generally viewed from underneath.
 
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You can test yourself by https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hakan.mnq.
You can see solution of the above question at attached pictures. This app shows you how can find function of shear forces and moments and draws diagrams.
 

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What is a bending moment diagram shape?

A bending moment diagram shape is a graphical representation of the variation of bending moment along the length of a structural member under an applied load. It helps engineers and designers understand the behavior of a structure and determine its strength and stability.

How is a bending moment diagram shape calculated?

The shape of a bending moment diagram is calculated using the equations of static equilibrium, which state that the sum of all forces and moments acting on a body must equal zero. By analyzing the external forces and internal stresses within a structural member, the bending moment at each point can be determined and plotted on the diagram.

What factors affect the shape of a bending moment diagram?

The shape of a bending moment diagram is affected by several factors, including the type of load applied, the type of support conditions, and the cross-sectional shape and material properties of the structural member. These factors influence the distribution of forces and moments within the member, resulting in different bending moment diagram shapes.

What does the shape of a bending moment diagram indicate?

The shape of a bending moment diagram indicates the magnitude and direction of bending moments at different points along a structural member. It also shows the location of maximum and minimum bending moments, which are important for determining the strength and design requirements of the member. Additionally, the shape can reveal any potential areas of weakness or instability in the structure.

What are the different types of bending moment diagram shapes?

The three most common types of bending moment diagram shapes are rectangular, triangular, and trapezoidal. These shapes are determined by the type of load and support conditions. Rectangular bending moment diagrams are typically seen in simply supported beams with a uniformly distributed load. Triangular bending moment diagrams are often seen in cantilever beams with a point load at the end. Trapezoidal bending moment diagrams are commonly seen in beams with a combination of point and uniformly distributed loads.

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