Best definition of truth

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Originally posted by drag
O.K. I suppose you could call that aspect
as the basic ellement of truth that's present
in observation, BUT Causalty is not uptodate
with modern physics, is it ? :wink:

Sure it is. Take, for example, Schrodinger's Cat...doesn't the observer cause the change to a definite state?
 
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Originally posted by Mentat
Sure it is. Take, for example, Schrodinger's
Cat...doesn't the observer cause the
change to a definite state?
O.K. How about WFs collapsing instantly ? :wink:
 
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Originally posted by Alexander
Best definition of truth I ever read came from Marx: "Truth is agreement with fact." In essense, this equates truth with observed fact. Therefore, there is no "absolute truth" or "the truth" - all we have is just observed fact(s).

Is there any better definition of truth?

Truth is also the complimentary opposite of falsehood and derived from experience as much as observation. In other words, without the concept of "false," truth has no meaning and taken together the two present a third concept we call "abstraction." Thus, truth is best defined as an abstraction derived from observation or experience.
 
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Originally posted by drag
O.K. How about WFs collapsing instantly ? :wink:

That's also an effect, isn't it?
 
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I meant instant cause and effect, Mentat.
Besides, and I believe we're also discussing
this in another thread at the moment, classical
causality implies a distinction of things that
doesn't really exist according to QM.

wuli, very intresting !
You get the best "truth definition" score from
me so far (though I still think mine was pretty
good too - more technical, but more limmited in
application which is kin'na shame 'cause you
can't just waste words like that ).

Live long and prosper.
 
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Originally posted by Alexander
Best definition of truth I ever read came from Marx: "Truth is agreement with fact." In essense, this equates truth with observed fact. Therefore, there is no "absolute truth" or "the truth" - all we have is just observed fact(s).

Is there any better definition of truth?
Truth is relative to the observer and has more to do with "timing" than anything else. Which is to say, there's a time and place for everything. Then and only then could the truth possibly exist (i.e., in its own time).
 

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