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Black holes and Higgs particles

  1. Jul 20, 2004 #1
    Do black holes emit Higgs particles in the Hawking radiation, as particles on their own, in addition to the Higgs particles associated with the mass of other particles such as electrons, which are emitted in the Hawking radiation?
     
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  3. Jul 20, 2004 #2

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    Good question. As a corrolary, what particles can be emitted as Hawking radiation, and do the particles so emitted need time and space to become "properly" associated with the Higgs field so that they accumulate some mass? :-)

    Higgs particles and the Higgs field are postulated to explain why atomic particles have mass, which cannot be accounted for by the attributes of their constituent parts. So far, these particles have not been found anywhere near the energies where they were proposed to be found. If you search the popular literature on the subject, you will see references to a very odd quote on the lines of "proving the Higgs particles do not exist will be as scientifically important as confirming their existence" or something similar. This is utter nonsense. There would be something imporant to be gained by confirming the existence of Higgs particles, but they CANNOT be proved not to exist, any more than one can prove that Bigfoot does not exist - nor should any reasonable scientist spend more than a minute in that endeavor. In my very humble opinion, the person who made that statement is either unaware of the scientific process or they have a vested interest in building and maintaining obscenely expensive particle accelerators.

    BTW, does anyone here know how many Higgs Bosons can dance on the head of a pin? I know that sounds flippant (to anybody who knows about the history of European religious orthodoxy), but if quantum theory and general relativity, et al, do not adequately explain our universe, it seems a bit presumptuous to measure the error and then ascribe the error to the existence of the effects of a previously-unknown class of particles acting within a previously unknown field. We may need to re-examine our basic physics instead of applying more and more band-aids.
     
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