# Block on Floor with Friction

1. Oct 6, 2008

### Awwnutz

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A box slides across a frictionless floor with an initial speed v = 2.8 m/s. It encounters a rough region where the coefficient of friction is µk = 0.7.

a) What is the shortest length of rough floor which will stop the box?

b) If instead the strip is only 0.28 m long, with what speed does the box leave the strip?

Relevant Equations:
Work Energy Theorem, Chane in Kinetic Energy = Work done on box.

(1/2)mv(final)^2 - (1/2)mv(initial)^2 = Ffriction

where i got: (1/2)(2.8)^2 = 0.7(9.81) * x
when i solved for x i got 0.571m

But its part b.) that i'm having the problem with. I set the problem up the same but solved for the velocity while i put in .28m for the distance

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2. Oct 6, 2008

### Rake-MC

well energy is always conserved. Therefore: $$\frac{1}{2}mv_1^2 + F\Delta d = \frac{1}{2}mv_2^2 + F\Delta d$$

So you know that Friction is playing no part in the initial velocity so you can get rid of Fd from the LHS.

You cancel the masses, you have initial velocity, distance and the retarding force of friction. Solve for v2

3. Oct 6, 2008

### Awwnutz

That's exactly it. I got the right answer. I was setting it up like this:

(1/2)mv(final)^2 - (1/2)mv(initial)^2 = Ffriction over the distance.

My problem with this set up was i wasn't making the friction negative. That's why i was getting the wrong answer.

Thanks so much for your help!

4. Oct 31, 2008

### manleju

I'm still stuck on this problem... Using this equation: (1/2)mvf^2-(1/2)mvi^2= (F*d) or coefficient of friction*mgd

So my final equation to solve for vf is:

vf= (squareroot): 2(coefficient of friction*gd+vi^2)

Here are the number given:

A box slides across a frictionless floor with an initial speed v = 2.8 m/s. It encounters a rough region where the coefficient of friction is µk = 0.7.

(b)If instead the strip is only 0.17 m long, with what speed does the box leave the strip?

I found that the shortest length of rough floor which will stop the box is 0.57m in part (a)

5. Oct 31, 2008

### Rake-MC

So, we know that energy is going to be conserved. First I'd write out a balanced equation using all the types of energy we have in this question:

$$\frac{1}{2}mv_1^2 + F_1\Delta d_1 = \frac{1}{2}mv_2^2 + F_2\Delta d_2$$

because there is no initial friction, we can get rid of the $$+ F\Delta d$$ on the left hand side, or get rid of the one on the right hand side and make the one on the left hand side negative (both yield the same answer mathematically).

solve for v2