Bombing Iran.

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pelastration said:
Iran has the right to become nuclear. I dont like that but Iran has that right. Israel had the same right. Israel used that right. The reason was to create a superior weapon, stronger than the surrounding countries had. I understand that argument.But that doesn't give Israel yet the right to forbid Iran to do the same. If Israel attacks again Iran (cfr bombing in 1980 Iran) with 100 of those 5,000 US smart bombs there will be much more reactions and fanatism then you can imagine in your worst nightmare.
My worst nightmare is fanatics becoming nuclear. According to you they do have that right they will use it. Common sense forbid it and the UN will decide whether or not Iran really has that right or give someone else the right to take away the right from Iran.

If that happens terrorism will be exported to USA. 9/11 was organized with a small structure. What happens when in US a couple of 100,000 Islamics feel personally attacked?
What happens.... well, when 100,000 fanatics feel personally attacked, ppl will hold the US responsible, blame the current president and then it will be 200.000. Its already happening, and Iran being nuclear will assure theres nothing to be done about it.

Why not try to find solutions in a Buddhistic way? Buddha said: "reduce stress". You don't reduce stress by attacks. With attacks you add stress. We see that in Sharon's solutions. Does he wins? No. He can win a battle, but not the war. The only solution can be found by talks and negotiations.
This is all fine, im all for peaceful solutions. Unfortunately nobody knows the Buddha solution to Israel/Palestine, Iran etc.

If you stay on attacking you get isolated because reasonable people want to have a simple and peaceful life, fun and love.
And that isolation is what happens with US and Israel. They became 'agressors' in the eyes of most people in the world.
Theyre seen as agressors because the enemy is invisible. The enemy has a right we dont have, the right to be pissed off and respond in the most brutal way possible. We have the duty to bend to their rage or be held accountable. Because the real enemy is invisible the closest thing that can be held accountable is the US and Israel, and you can see how much the world loves doing that.
 
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Phatmoneky,

Who say's the state, country or philothrapic group needs to say?: Look! It is us bombing Israel!

When a patient asks about a cure that a medical doctore is responsible for, the doctor can't always explain things. Because, the patient would need the same years of education and experience neccesary to interpret the explanation of the cure. The doctor is not intentionally being secretive. It's the circumstance of intelligence that prevents the patient from understanding.

Those who would nuke Israel are not cowards because they don't stand up and admit it, it would be done because of the circumstance the physical intelligence creates.

The same analogy applies to the suicide bomber of state with less powerfull economies when they must defend themselves. Palestenians do not carry the bombs over because they are insane (like the Associated Press and Fox News has many thinking), the circumstance of their Kami-Kazi defense has made it necessary if they are to defend and promote a patriotic environment of defense against an evil agressor.

Terrorist labeling is necessary by the Evil Agressor because it takes more passion and heroism to achieve the status of a suicide bomber. There is no better hero in any war than the one who sacrifices themselves to attack those who are killing or support the killing of there own people. The coward can be seen safe from his F-16 while he murders the women and children with his collateral damage, which is most of the damage Israeli leadership is responsible for. The suicide bomber must submit to a flight with the Valkre when he makes his war oath. He's the better hero. Jealousy of this drives the label terrorist.

Power is decentralizing. Chemistry and physics and the unstopable internet as well mass publications mixed with evil agressive policy such as Bush and Israel, we will suffer the repercussion of (Ironically) David who always will be able to slay the belligernant Giant (no matter what form it takes). David is a terrorist by Bushes defintion.

America will submit to fairness and remove Bush types and Kerry types. How many will die in the process while the imminent bottom line is approached?

Get rid of the Vadors, Vote Nader.
 
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Jewish people never had better lives than under the arab rule,from Iberian peninsula to the ottoman empire. Jews had to pay just taxes and could pray to whatever they liked,Christians also.
Now in this century someone has screwed Jews and Palestinians big time,and who are they? zionists and wars go with them.
 
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Aquamarine said:
It is very simple. Democracies never goes to war against each other. The US, France, England and Israel will not attack another democracy. Iran might and have already given strong hints that they will.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/PK.APPEN1.1.HTM
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm

Israel is not exactly such a beautifull democracy,there are severe restrictions on non -jewish and they are second class citizens.
I heard even about restrictions on intermarriage bettwen various ethnic groups.
 
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studentx said:
My worst nightmare is fanatics becoming nuclear. According to you they do have that right they will use it. Common sense forbid it and the UN will decide whether or not Iran really has that right or give someone else the right to take away the right from Iran.
One of the fanatics has already that nuclear weapon: Israel.

The problem with Sharon is that he sees Jews are superior beings, choosen by God, and based on a book written by one or more humans. Now I am not impressed about that book. I believe humans are equal. But Bush also believes (Pat Robertson?) that Jews are superior and have a natural relationship with the other superior nation: USA. :rofl:
You need the links?

If Israel would attack Iran, it will not use it's nukes, but the US smart bombs, and it's own smart bombs.
 
All the while giving people good reason to NOT want to help America IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER. It wont be so funny when large coallitions of nations one day make up their minds to oppose the US.

USA wont bomb Iran. But Isreal will. Which will be its downfall. Not that they will lose to the Iraniains. But it will trun their society into such a warlike state that it will simply chease to exist as a Democracy. IT will be DEPENDANT on warfare as a defenition of its very statehood. ((( Dear lord the irony, Isreal as a facist state. ))) When it gets to that point Isreal will devole into a spiral of death and destruction which will end in dissolution of Isreali unity AND THEN ON THAT DAY THEY WILL GET RAPED LIKE NOTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE.
 
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Preator Fenix said:
All the while giving people good reason to NOT want to help America IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER. It wont be so funny when large coallitions of nations one day make up their minds to oppose the US.

USA wont bomb Iran. But Isreal will. Which will be its downfall. Not that they will lose to the Iraniains. But it will trun their society into such a warlike state that it will simply chease to exist as a Democracy. IT will be DEPENDANT on warfare as a defenition of its very statehood. ((( Dear lord the irony, Isreal as a facist state. ))) When it gets to that point Isreal will devole into a spiral of death and destruction which will end in dissolution of Isreali unity AND THEN ON THAT DAY THEY WILL GET RAPED LIKE NOTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Man, throw in some fire and brimstone with that apocalypse while you are at it
 
Well I still am allowed to dearm at least???

Can you not leave an old fool enjoy his own ignorace and well engouh alone with his foolish illusions???
 
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tumor said:
Israel is not exactly such a beautifull democracy,there are severe restrictions on non -jewish and they are second class citizens.
I heard even about restrictions on intermarriage bettwen various ethnic groups.
And like the family law in America, the most fundamental of all civil laws, they are fl*u!nking idiots!
 

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