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Bose einstein condensate can be made to attract

  1. Jun 21, 2003 #1

    wolram

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    this subject,amoung others facinate me, does anyone have an insight as to
    what is happening here?
     
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  3. Jun 21, 2003 #2

    drag

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    Re: bosenova

    What is it ?
     
  4. Jun 21, 2003 #3

    wolram

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    CARL WIEMAN and co at NIST have discovered that atoms inside
    a bose einstein condensate can be made to attract or repel one another
    they made a self attracting BEC, it began to shrink but then exploded.
    sorry but url does not work but a google search for BOSENOVA does
    cheers...
     
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  5. Jun 21, 2003 #4

    drag

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    Cool ! :smile:
    Any idea as to the source of this force ?
     
  6. Jun 21, 2003 #5

    wolram

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    i can find no more info on the web, maybe someone has read an upto date paper, i hate being left in suspence.
     
  7. Jun 21, 2003 #6

    marcus

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    You probably were reading this news release from NIST

    http://www.colorado.edu/NewsServices/NewsReleases/2001/1104.html

    I am posting the link to save people trouble of a google search and because I think the news release is pretty detailed and informative. Can anyone explain how by adjusting the magnetic field surrounding the condensate they can change the interaction between the atoms from one of attraction to repulsion and vice versa?

    Has anyone an idea why they used Rubidium-85?

    This press release has a link to a movie (it says) of
    a rubidium bose-einstein condensate ball initially contracting
    and then exploding

    (analogy with Type II supernova was pointed out)

    the temperature of 3 billionths of a kelvin is impressive---
    apparently a record low

    Carl Wieman's team is said to have announced this at an AIP conference and submitted this paper to Physical Review Letters:

    Controlled Collapse of a Bose-Einstein Condensate," J. L. Roberts, N. R. Claussen, S. L. Cornish, E. A. Donley, E. A. Cornell, C. E. Wieman
     
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  8. Jun 22, 2003 #7

    wolram

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    so far i have found that BECs have been made with
    Rb,Na,Li,K,H and metastable He
    im still looking for more info on related BOSENOVA
     
  9. Jun 22, 2003 #8

    wolram

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    i found this exelent discription as to what is happening
    sorry i cannot get the link to work, i did a google search for
    feshbach resonance and came up with,
    chapter 2 the 155 G Rb feshbach resonance 2.1 introduction 2.2
    i do not understand all of it but perchance someone with more than my basic ganglion could give a simplified overview.[?]
     
  10. Jun 22, 2003 #9

    marcus

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    Another time you might try copying and pasting the URL
    of whatever webpage it is
    You could paste the ww..... address right into the post
    for us to copy. It does not need to form a workable link.
    Just knowing the URL would suffice, making the google search unnecessary.
    What does "feshbach resonance" look like in practical terms----might it be causing the observed explosions in BEC?
    The name makes me think of trout fishing----bach means "creek" and the original name Fisch-bach doubtless meant "Fish-creek".
    Today is sunday and the weather being fine one's mind naturally turns to more serious matters than physics.
     
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  11. Jun 22, 2003 #10

    drag

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    I read somewhere that BECs can only be created from
    ellements having an even number, or was it full shells,
    I forgot.
    Guess someone's goin'na have to do a serious search of
    recent related info and post the links...
     
  12. Jun 22, 2003 #11
    This is over 2 yrs old, things have moved on a bit since then, and we covered this on the old forum? is there not acess to these postings? or has the database been collapsed?
     
  13. Jun 22, 2003 #12

    wolram

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    then relax and go fishing marcus, information may be years old to some of you but how are the multitude to know
    that is the major problem with the internet unless you are at the forfront of these "DISCOVERIES" how is one suposed to know, i do beg your pardon about url but i didnt grow up with computers if somthing dosent seem to work i dont use it, i could say more but i think its time to call it a day and say goodby to this source of misinformation
    your thankfully wolram.
     
  14. Jun 22, 2003 #13

    drag

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    I got the archive CD, but most others don't. Besides, like
    you said, things have moved on a bit even since the
    old forum. :wink: So why not discuss this all over again ! :smile:
     
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