Why use a subset in the definition of bounded above?

In summary, the subset ##E## is necessary in the definition of order, and it makes sense to include it.
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Is the subset ##E## necessary in the following definition? It doesn't seem to serve any purpose at all and could've been written with ##S## directly? Isn't ##E## just another ordered set since it's a subset of ##S##?

Definition:
Suppose ##S## is an ordered set, and ##E \subset S##. If there exists a ##\beta \in S## such that ##x \le \beta## for every ##x \in E##, we say that ##E## is bounded above, and call ##\beta## and upper bound of ##E##.

Definition of order:
Let ##S## be a set. An order on ##S## is a relation, denoted by ##<##, with the following properties:
(i) If ##x\in S## and ##y \in S## then one and only one of the statements
##x<y,\; \; \; x=y, \; \; \; y < x## is true.
(2) If##x,y,z \in S##, if ##x<y## and ##y< z## then ##x<z##.
 
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Incand said:
Is the subset ##E## necessary in the following definition? It doesn't seem to serve any purpose at all and could've been written with ##S## directly? Isn't ##E## just another ordered set since it's a subset of ##S##?

Definition:
Suppose ##S## is an ordered set, and ##E \subset S##. If there exists a ##\beta \in S## such that ##x \le \beta## for every ##x \in E##, we say that ##E## is bounded above, and call ##\beta## and upper bound of ##E##.

Definition of order:
Let ##S## be a set. An order on ##S## is a relation, denoted by ##<##, with the following properties:
(i) If ##x\in S## and ##y \in S## then one and only one of the statements
##x<y,\; \; \; x=y, \; \; \; y < x## is true.
(2) If##x,y,z \in S##, if ##x<y## and ##y< z## then ##x<z##.
##E## as a subset of ##S## makes sense.
The upper bound ##\beta## isn't necessarily an element of ##E##.

Example: the real interval ]0,1[. It is bounded above as a subset of ##\mathbb R##.
 
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Thanks! That would explain it.
 

What is the definition of "bounded above"?

Bounded above is a mathematical term used to describe a set or function that has an upper limit or finite value that it cannot exceed.

How is "bounded above" different from "bounded below"?

"Bounded above" and "bounded below" are similar concepts, but they refer to different limits. Bounded above refers to the upper limit or maximum value, while bounded below refers to the lower limit or minimum value.

Can a set or function be both bounded above and below?

Yes, a set or function can be both bounded above and below. This means that it has both an upper limit and a lower limit, and all values fall within these limits.

What is an example of a set that is bounded above?

An example of a set that is bounded above is the set of positive integers less than 10. The upper limit is 10, as no value in the set can exceed 10.

How is "bounded above" used in real-world applications?

"Bounded above" is used in various fields of science and mathematics, such as economics, physics, and computer science. It helps to define limits and constraints in models and systems, allowing for more accurate predictions and analysis.

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