Understanding Boundedness in Real Sequences

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In summary, the conversation discusses bounded real sequences and their properties in the set \ell_\infty \mathbb({R}). In conclusion, (n)=(1,2,3...) and (2n^2+1) are not bounded above, while (1/n)=(1,1/2,1/3,1/4...) is bounded above by 1. The statement (4-1/n) is also bounded above and below, with all values being less than 4.
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Let [itex]\ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] be the set of bounded real sequences with k > 0 such that [itex]\left | x_n \right |\le k[/itex]

a) [itex](n)=(1,2,3...) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex]. This is not bounded 'above'?

b) [itex](2n^2+1) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Same answer as above?

c) [itex](1/n)=(1,1/2,1/3,1/4...) \in \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Is bounded above?

d) [itex](4-1/n) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Why is this not bounded? Is it because the value wll not go below 0?
 
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a) yes.

b) yes.

c) bounded above AND below: 0 < 1/n ≤ 1

d) i think there's a typo here
 
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bugatti79 said:

Homework Statement



Let [itex]\ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] be the set of bounded real sequences with k > 0 such that [itex]\left | x_n \right |\le k[/itex]

a) [itex](n)=(1,2,3...) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex]. This is not bounded 'above'?
Correct. No matter how large an M you pick, for some n, an > M.
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b) [itex](2n^2+1) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Same answer as above?
Yes.
bugatti79 said:
c) [itex](1/n)=(1,1/2,1/3,1/4...) \in \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Is bounded above?
Yes, by 1.
bugatti79 said:
d) [itex](4-1/n) \notin \ell_\infty \mathbb({R})[/itex] Why is this not bounded? Is it because the value wll not go below 0?
Looks bounded to me. Every number in the sequence is less than 4. Why do you think it's not bounded?
 
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Looks bounded to me. Every number in the sequence is less than 4. Why do you think it's not bounded?

Thanks guys,

Is d) bounded above AND below...because [itex]0<(4-1/n) \le 4[/itex]...?
 
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For d, you have 3 <= 4 - 1/n < 4, with n being a positive integer.
 
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Thanks Mark.
 

What is boundedness in mathematics?

Boundedness in mathematics refers to the property of a set or function to have a finite or limited range of values. It means that the set or function does not extend infinitely in any direction.

Why is boundedness important in mathematical analysis?

Boundedness is important in mathematical analysis because it helps us understand the behavior of sets and functions. It allows us to determine if a set or function is well-behaved and to make predictions about its behavior in different situations.

How do you determine if a set or function is bounded?

To determine if a set or function is bounded, you need to look at its range of values. If the range is finite or limited, then the set or function is bounded. You can also use mathematical theorems and techniques, such as the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem or the concept of absolute value, to determine boundedness.

What is the difference between a bounded set and a bounded function?

A bounded set is a collection of elements with a finite or limited range, while a bounded function is a mathematical relationship between two sets that also has a finite or limited range of values. In other words, a bounded function is a type of bounded set, but not all bounded sets are functions.

Can a set or function be both bounded and unbounded?

No, a set or function cannot be both bounded and unbounded. Boundedness is a binary property, meaning that a set or function is either bounded or unbounded. However, a set or function can be bounded in one direction and unbounded in another, which is known as semi-boundedness.

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