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BP:- Top Kill Shot (Watch Live)

  1. May 26, 2010 #1
    http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int...ocal_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html"

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/05/26/gulf.oil.spil/index.html?hpt=T1"

    Fingers crossed it works!
     
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  3. May 26, 2010 #2
    Wow I hadn't watched a live stream of it before and I have to say this is just crazy.

    What I don't understand is how come BP was allowed to have so much time to decide what to do instead of going right ahead with an attempt to plug it in the way they are going to now. There's absolutely no way they put the other methods they tried at a higher probability for success. This way seems to make the most sense to me and I do not think it matters too much that they are so deep in water.

    Were they trying to perserve what they had down there to finish rigging there?

    Things I also thought about was putting like a concrete coloumn around it with a hole in the middle that way you could control where they oil went... Or put an upside-down dome with a hole in the bottom for the oil to enter that way you can atleast control how big an area is effected by the oil. I assume these would cost a lot of money, but hardly the amount that BP is going to have to fork out now.
     
  4. May 26, 2010 #3

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    They tried a containment box, but it filled with ice crystals.
     
  5. May 26, 2010 #4
    A kill well does just that. It's totally kills the well, and it's possible that ones it's killed it can't be 'unkilled'. This means you just can't get any more oil from it.

    There would have been a cost analysis done, (as this all comes down to money, not 'the right thing') and this is the last stand.
     
  6. May 26, 2010 #5
    I imagine BP was working on all these solutions at the same time. This one took the most time to prepare. They had no contengency for a leak at this depth with a breakdown of all the failsafes they normally implement.

    This process took the longest to prepare therefore it hasn't been brought to our attention until now. It's not like they had it sitting in the garage and someone just stood up and said, "Why don't we try this thing over here that will probably work instead of all these other ideas?"
     
  7. May 26, 2010 #6
    It's just that this one had by far the biggest financial risk if they cant get the well going again in the future. Political and social pressure if driving them to kill the well. It's a contingecy they always had, just not used.
     
  8. May 26, 2010 #7
    But the political floodgates being opened that the continued spill are causing have to be far worse than the potential profit that could be made by continued use of this well. If they could have capped it totally in the first week and started drilling again nearby they would have.
     
  9. May 26, 2010 #8

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    They are already drilling nearby, but it could take 2-3 months to complete.
     
  10. May 26, 2010 #9

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    I really don't understand the formation of ice in the containment dome, the oil, gas and saltwater mixture coming out of the pipe should be warm enough to compensate for the cooling caused by the expansion of gas ??

    Anyone have first hand experience or knowledge of what's at play ?
     
  11. May 26, 2010 #10
    I thought I heard it was a condensate(?) from a chemical reaction

    http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.co...-fails-as-hydrate-ice-crystals-abort-mission/
     
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  12. May 26, 2010 #11
    The temp at that level is probably colder then freezing not likely warm at all.
     
  13. May 26, 2010 #12

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    Form what I understand it was not ice, but methane hydrate. Looks similar, but it is something completely different.
     
  14. May 26, 2010 #13

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    My stomach is all tied up in knots right now. I keep checking the news in between phone calls, but so far, no luck. The top kill was started about 2:30 PM EDT - three hours ago. My impression was that we should see some results by now, but perhaps it is too soon. The entire procedure is supposed to take about twelve hours.

    According to one spokesman for the oil industry, the order of the attempted fixes was based on risk. If this fails, it could make things much worse. Also, it is not known to what extent the bop has been compromised. They were working through the night running tests to determine if the bop could withstand the pressure.
     
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  15. May 26, 2010 #14
    I saw a new cam view of the oil spill at cnn... Looks like a ton of oil coming out compaired to the other feeds I have seen. However I already had factored for that in my head so wasn't that shocked. I'm still wondering how big the oilfield is?
     
  16. May 26, 2010 #15

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    As for size, if left unchecked, the leak could continue for the rest of your life.

    That's a direct quote. This question was addressed on the news one night.
     
  17. May 26, 2010 #16
    That doesn't really tell me anything... How long is the rest of my life? How much oil is coming out right now?

    Ok so for 24.5 years how much oil would be pumping out?
     
  18. May 26, 2010 #17
    Anywhere between 5000 and 70000 barrels a day are flowing out. I tihnk the field the Horizon was drilling was estimated to have 50 million barrels of attainable oil.

    So it could continue for anywhere between 2 and 25 years.
     
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  19. May 26, 2010 #18

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    The flow appears to be somewhere between 10,000 and 100,000 barrels per day [40 gallons per barrel]. No one is sure, but 30k-70k barrels per day seems to be a midrange expectation. The problem is that there is no way to know precisely how much of the flow is natural gas, and how much is oil.

    The actual size of the field was never mentioned; only that this could continue for another 50 or 100 years if we did nothing.

    The claim that this is only 5k barrels per day has been conclusively falsified. BP was pumping that much one day with the intercept pipe, with little or no noticable change in the size of the leak.
     
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  20. May 26, 2010 #19
    So I can expect 50 million barrels of oil to be in the sea in the next 2 years right?
     
  21. May 26, 2010 #20
    Maybe, I think the kill will work. I also think it'll make the well unrecoverable.
     
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