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Brain Teasers Open to All

  1. Apr 8, 2004 #1
    Unfortunately I don't have time to regularly post new brain teasers, I'm sure most have you have noticed :biggrin: So this means I am opening the forum to all. If you have a brain teaser you want members to try out, be my guest and post it! Please keep all threads solely brain teasers and not a general question or comment. Have fun!

    Oh and marcus if you want to claim your prize, PM me :smile:
     
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  3. Jul 26, 2004 #2
    Oh, sounds fun
     
  4. Jul 29, 2004 #3
    Coloures Hats


    Coloured Hats.

    We have a box in which there are 2 white and 3 blue hats.
    The light is turned out and 3 boys take at random one hat each and places it on his head.
    The light is turned on again.
    Each boy can see the colour of the hat of each of his colleages but not his own.
    The first boy is asked the colour of the hat he is wearing.
    He thinks and says he does not know.
    The second boy is asked the colour of his hat.
    He thinks and says he does not know.
    The third boy is now asked and he replies Blue.
    What was the reasoning of the third boy's answer?

    I believe the logic will also work for red and green hats.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2004 #4

    Njorl

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    I put it in white. Select to see:

    Boy 1 did not see 2 white hats, or he would say his hat was blue.

    Boy 2 knows that boy 1 saw at least 1 blue hat. If he sees a white hat on boy 3, he knows his own hat is blue. He does not see a white hat there.

    Boy three knows boy 2 saw a blue hat on him. He knows his own hat is blue without even seeing the other boy's hats.



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  6. Aug 4, 2004 #5

    Gokul43201

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    Njorl, Darn you man !

    For the longest time, I misread your first line - I read the line without the "it". So I thought you guessed "white". So, I rechecked my solution a gazillion times before I gave up and went through your's - only to find that you went on to finally "contradict your opening line" - or at least, as I had read it.

    Why are puzzles being posted on the sticky ? And why don't people come back to say if you're right or wrong ?
     
  7. Aug 4, 2004 #6
    Quote:
    "i put it in white"

    to be read as i put the solution in white :p :D

    Quote:
    "Why are puzzles being posted on the sticky ? And why don't people come back to say if you're right or wrong ?"

    Probably they never expected anyone to solve it ?? :P :D
     
  8. Aug 6, 2004 #7
    the first two boys are wearing white hats and there are only two white hats, so what the third boy picked was one of the three blue hats
     
  9. Aug 7, 2004 #8
    Thanks for the replies.
    The third boy was not wearing a white hat, because had this been the case the second boy could have said blue because the first boy was unable to say blue because he did not see two white hats.
    Whats a sticky anyway.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2004 #9

    marcus

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    I will put the answer in white:

    a "sticky" is a sticky thread
    a sticky thread is a thread that stays at the top of the list of threads.
    "mentors" i.e. moderators have the power to create stickies
    Normal threads are sorted by date (usually most recent post) and so
    the more active threads stay high in the listing and are the easiest to find.
    However there may be some threads containing useful or important information that the mentor wants to remain always readily availble

    Select to see.
     
  11. Aug 17, 2004 #10
    I have a good solution I think:


    If 1 saw 2-blue, 3-blue; 1 could be 1-blue or 1-white.

    If 1 saw 2-white, 3-blue; 1 could be 1-blue or 1-white

    If 1 saw 2-blue, 3-white; 1 could be 1-blue or 1-white.

    If 1 saw 2-white, 3-white; 1 would know he's blue by default. But he didn't.



    If 2 saw 1-blue, 3-blue; 2 could be 2-blue or 2-white.

    If 2 saw 1-blue, 3-white; 2 could be 2-blue or 2-white.

    If 2 saw 1-white, 3-blue; 2 could be 2-blue or 2-white.

    If 2 saw 1-white, 3-white; 2 would know he's blue by default. But he didn't.


    If 3 saw 1-blue, 2-blue; 3 could be 3-blue or 3-white.

    If 3 saw 1-blue, 2-white; 3 must be blue, or else 1 would have known. But he didn't.

    If 3 saw 1-white, 2-blue; 3 must be blue, or else 2 would have known. But he didn't.

    Conclusion: 3 must be blue, or else 1 and 2 would have already been able to determine their own hat colors, but they weren't able to.


    I hope this is clear. I decided to write it out somewhat logically instead of in long sentences, I hope it helps.
     
  12. Aug 18, 2004 #11

    NateTG

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    I'm not an admin, but

    Please put puzzles in threads rather than here.
     
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  14. Apr 24, 2005 #13
    Not quite a puzzle

    A cheeky boy was digging a hole in the garden.

    An elderly neighbour overlooking him across the fencing and asked,
    "What are you doing there kid"

    The kid replied without looking up, "My goldfish has died, and I am burying it here"

    That old man continued, "That's an awfully big hole for a gold fish!".


    Guess what did the kid reply.
     
  15. Apr 24, 2005 #14
    The goldfish died by being flushed down into the sewage tank... the boy has to get the goldfish before he can bury it...
     
  16. Apr 25, 2005 #15
    it was a big goldfish
     
  17. Apr 25, 2005 #16

    JamesU

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    I think... he wanted to get it out of the sewer. :rofl:
     
  18. May 3, 2005 #17
    Answer (whited out) His father had eaten the goldfish
     
  19. Jul 13, 2005 #18
    It's for the cat that ate the goldfish.
     
  20. Nov 15, 2005 #19
    New white out code

    White out New white out code

    (color=#ededed) New white out code (/color)
    use [ not (
     
  21. Nov 17, 2005 #20
    This is good to have, but usually what's good about a white out is that there's some indication that there is something there. However, there's a difference between "whited-out" and "invisible," but we'll see how it works out. Maybe there can be better indication that there actually is something whited out and exactly where it is by putting it in parentheses or something. Otherwise, they'll be overlooked.
     
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