What is the expected value of the area of a triangle formed from a broken stick?

In summary: The second cut can be placed in any arbitrary direction. So, as the author points out, the expected value of the triangle's area is zero because we can't actually form the triangle.However, if the cut is placed on the x-axis (the x-axis would then be the broken piece), then the expected value of the triangle's area is 1. (The reason is that the x-axis is the longest side of the triangle and so it should have the most area.)So, in summary, the expected value of the triangle's area is 1 provided that the cut is placed on the x-axis.
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I don't think this warrants an insight, so here are the two methods. My epiphany was realizing that once the first piece is chosen, the third apex of all valid triangles must lie on an ellipse.
Method 1
Let a be the first piece with an upper limit of half the perimeter p (p = (a+b+c)/2). The sum of the other two pieces is constant and equal to 2p - a. This means that the third vertex of the triangle must lie on an ellipse, the separation betwen the two foci of which is the base of the triangle a. The distance r from one of the foci to the ellipse is given in polar coordinates as
##r(\phi)=\frac{C}{1+\epsilon \cos \phi}##
where ##\epsilon## is the eccentricity. We can find constant C by setting ##\phi## = 0 in which case ##r(\phi)## has minimum and maximum values,
##r_{max}=\frac{C}{1-\epsilon}##; ##r_{min}=\frac{C}{1+\epsilon}##
Note that ##r_{max}-r_{min}=a## from the definition of these quantities for an ellipse.
But also when ##\phi = 0##, ##2r_{min}+a=2p-a \rightarrow r_{min}=p-a## which gives ##C=(1+\epsilon)(p-a)## in which case
##r(\phi)=\frac{(1+\epsilon)(p-a)}{1+\epsilon \cos \phi}##
The eccentricity is the ratio of the base (distance between foci) to the sum of the two other sides,
##\epsilon=\frac{a}{2p-a}## so that, finally,
$$r(\phi)=\frac{2p(p-a)}{(2p-a)+a \cos \phi}$$
The probability that the first piece be between ##a## and ##a+da## is uniform and given by
##dP_a=\frac{1}{p}da## subject to the constraint ##0<a<p##.
The probability that the second piece be between ##r## and ##r+dr## is also uniform and given by
##dP_r=\frac{1}{r_{max}-r_{min}}dr=\frac{1}{a}dr## subject to the constraint ##r_{min}<r<r_{max}##.
The latter probability in terms of ##\phi## is
##dP_{\phi}=\frac{1}{a} \frac{\partial r}{\partial \phi}d\phi=\frac{2p(p-a)\sin \phi}{[(2p-a)+a \cos \phi]^2}d \phi##

The area of the triangle is
##A(r,\phi)=\frac{1}{2}\left| \vec{a} \times \vec{r}(\phi) \right |=\frac{ap(p-a)\sin \phi}{(2p-a)+a \cos \phi}##

The expectation value for the area is
$$\left< A \right>=\int{A(a,\phi)dP_a~dP_{\phi}}=2p\int_0^p{a(p-a)^2 da} \int_0^\pi{\frac{\sin^2 \phi}{[(2p-a)+a \cos \phi]^3} d \phi}$$Integration yields
$$\left< A \right>=\frac{\pi p^2}{30}.$$
Method 2
Heron's formula
##A=\sqrt{p(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)}~;~p=(a+b+c)/2##
can be transformed to
##A=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{p(p-a)(a^2-\eta^2)}~;~\eta \equiv b-c##
where ##a## is the first broken piece. As before, the probability that the first piece be between ##a## and ##a+da## is uniform and given by
##dP_a=\frac{1}{p}da## subject to the constraint ##0<a<p##.
The remaining piece can be broken into two more pieces of which the larger piece is labeled ##b## and the smaller piece is labeled ##c##. We define the difference between the pieces ##\eta \equiv b-c##. The probability that ##\eta## be between ##\eta## and ##\eta+d\eta## is uniform and given by ##dP_{\eta}=\frac{1}{a}d\eta## subject to the constraint ##0<\eta<a##
The expectation value for the area is
$$\left< A \right>=\int{A(a,\eta)dP_a~dP_{\eta}}=\frac{1}{2p} \int_0^p{\frac{1}{a}da} \int_0^a{\sqrt{p(p-a)(a^2-\eta^2)}d\eta}$$
Integration yields$$\left< A \right>=\frac{\pi p^2}{30}.$$
 
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<h2>1. What is the formula for calculating the expected value of the area of a triangle formed from a broken stick?</h2><p>The formula for calculating the expected value of the area of a triangle formed from a broken stick is (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.</p><h2>2. How is the expected value of the area of a triangle affected by the length of the original stick?</h2><p>The expected value of the area of a triangle is directly proportional to the length of the original stick. This means that as the length of the stick increases, the expected value of the area of the triangle also increases.</p><h2>3. Can the expected value of the area of a triangle be negative?</h2><p>No, the expected value of the area of a triangle cannot be negative. It represents the average value of all possible outcomes, and an area cannot be negative.</p><h2>4. How does the expected value of the area of a triangle change if the stick is broken into more than three pieces?</h2><p>The expected value of the area of a triangle remains the same regardless of the number of pieces the stick is broken into. As long as the pieces can still form a triangle, the expected value will be (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.</p><h2>5. Is the expected value of the area of a triangle affected by the angle at which the stick is broken?</h2><p>No, the expected value of the area of a triangle is not affected by the angle at which the stick is broken. As long as the pieces can still form a triangle, the expected value will be (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.</p>

1. What is the formula for calculating the expected value of the area of a triangle formed from a broken stick?

The formula for calculating the expected value of the area of a triangle formed from a broken stick is (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.

2. How is the expected value of the area of a triangle affected by the length of the original stick?

The expected value of the area of a triangle is directly proportional to the length of the original stick. This means that as the length of the stick increases, the expected value of the area of the triangle also increases.

3. Can the expected value of the area of a triangle be negative?

No, the expected value of the area of a triangle cannot be negative. It represents the average value of all possible outcomes, and an area cannot be negative.

4. How does the expected value of the area of a triangle change if the stick is broken into more than three pieces?

The expected value of the area of a triangle remains the same regardless of the number of pieces the stick is broken into. As long as the pieces can still form a triangle, the expected value will be (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.

5. Is the expected value of the area of a triangle affected by the angle at which the stick is broken?

No, the expected value of the area of a triangle is not affected by the angle at which the stick is broken. As long as the pieces can still form a triangle, the expected value will be (1/4)*L^2, where L is the length of the original stick.

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