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Programs BSc, MSc,Phd at the same school

  1. Sep 9, 2006 #1
    Is it bad to do all 3 degrees at teh same school. I heard its frowned upon but
    is it that bad?
     
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  3. Sep 9, 2006 #2

    Dr Transport

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    It is getting more common but not a good idea. Let me say this much, I wouldn't hire anyone who has never changed schools.
     
  4. Sep 9, 2006 #3

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    Why wouldn't you want to change schools?!

    You get so much more networking, ideas and experience by changing schools.
     
  5. Sep 9, 2006 #4
    I'm pretty sure you could also get networking and exchange of ideas through collaborations(which is what I will be doing),student sabbaticals and conferences/colloquia

    The main reason I would prefer not changing schools is family. I'm kinda attached to my niece/nephew and would like to help them in academics.
    But another reason is the ease of transfering from MSc to Phd at the school.

    From Transports post, is it a common thing for people to decline employees who have taken all degrees from the same school. I guess that will be the major disadvantage.
     
  6. Sep 9, 2006 #5
    Question:

    Let's say you are in fourth year and your are ready to apply to graduate school.

    I was told that it is MUCH easier to get into the graduate school where you did you undergrauate since you should (hopefully) know most of the faculty.

    It this generally true?

    How is the application process to other schools?
     
  7. Sep 9, 2006 #6

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    I went to two different schools, one was in the habit of accepting their own students. Other schools didn't think too highly of their graduates who earned all of their degrees there. The other (the one where I got my undergrad degree) basically told me that I could stay and get a Masters, but then I was out they were going to make it very diffcult for me to contimue. The school I got my undergraduate degree from has a fairly decent reputation all over the country and world, whereas the school I got my PhD from only had a reasonable reputation in their part of the country and was known for driving their really good faculty away (I got my degreeunder a guy who was an untenured research faculty member not associated with the physics department and one of the best optical properties of semiconductor theorists out there).

    If you want to be with your family, go to a school that is not too far away....
     
  8. Sep 9, 2006 #7
    Why not? So if I went to say, MIT for all three, you would not hire me? ...

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  9. Sep 9, 2006 #8
    lol I was thinking the same exact thing!
     
  10. Sep 9, 2006 #9

    JasonRox

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    No freaking way I'd hire you! :devil:
     
  11. Sep 9, 2006 #10
    I love you too Jason....:biggrin:
     
  12. Sep 9, 2006 #11
    It's always easier to get recommendations and praise from someone you have already impressed in one form or another then it is to impress someone you have never met or worked with.

    I've seen this myself at my job, I've had 5 different managers over the last 3 years and I've had to convince each of them of my value. Even with my coworkers vouching for me, I've had to prove myself to each one on an individual bases. But once that was done, I could have gotten away with a lot with no questions asked.

    I'm sure employers know about this kind of thing and would be more inclined to hire someone who has proven themselves 2 or 3 times at different levels to different sets of people then someone who may have sneaked through by being impressive in their undergrad classes only.

    Just a theory....
     
  13. Sep 9, 2006 #12

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    Even Richard Feynman was kicked out of MIT for graduate school (JC Slater told him that even if he applied he wouldnot get in, it wasn't allowed).

    It isn't a hard-fast rule, if you went to Cal Tech, MIT, Princeton etc... you'd get consideration, but many other schools not so much. But other than the super-geniuses, most people are gonna go someplace else for different aspects of their education.

    As for references for graduate school, get the best ones you can. If you get glowing reccomendations from some assisstant professor who is a no-name and a marginal reference from a big name full professor you are not gonna get into any school. Admission committees at decent schools look at the person who is writing the reccomendation almost as much as what is says.
     
  14. Sep 9, 2006 #13
    I have a questioon Doc, where do you work?
     
  15. Sep 9, 2006 #14

    Dr Transport

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    Industry.....And I am not allowed to tell who, what or where......
     
  16. Sep 9, 2006 #15
    You're not allowed to tell where you work? That's odd....
     
  17. Sep 9, 2006 #16

    Dr Transport

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    That is da rules.........
     
  18. Sep 9, 2006 #17
    Transportation lol
     
  19. Sep 9, 2006 #18
    NASA or LLNL hehe would be my guesses.
     
  20. Sep 9, 2006 #19
    You can say you work at NASA, NASA and LLNL are not Industry.

    I find it to be silly that he cannot say where he works. I know people who work on black projects, and they can say where they work, just not what they work on or where. I think that's stupid policy not to say where you work. (Actually, I find it rather hard to believe)
     
  21. Sep 9, 2006 #20
    In his first post, Dr Transport said, "It is getting more common but not a good idea. Let me say this much, I wouldn't hire anyone who has never changed schools." If he said where he worked, his statement might be misconstrued as his company's policy.
     
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