BSc, MSc,Phd at the same school

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buddyholly9999 said:
Discriminatory practices under these [federal] laws also include:

employment decisions based on stereotypes or assumptions about the abilities, traits, or performance of individuals of a certain sex, race, age, religion, or ethnic group, or individuals with disabilities; and
No where does it say institutions of higher education. Ther are plenty of places who will not hire from certain colleges because of past experience with their graduates. If a position calls for a degree from an ABET Accredited institution, if your school is not, "tough luck Charlie", you are not getting hired.

I will add this, I know some very intelligent people who went to the University of Rochester for undergraduate degrees in Optics. When they applied to UofR for graduate work they were told not to bother, it was a waste of time and money, they were not getting in.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
In what respect?
They have only one view of things in their degree program, other departments give you a fresh vantage point to make decisions.
 
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Well, I plan on doing the first two at the same place. As for Phd, <shudder> not so sure if I will do one at all. :smile:
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
You're not allowed to tell where you work? That's odd....
unless he works for DoD
 
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buddyholly9999 said:
United States of America..

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html

and for those of you to lazy...

Discriminatory practices under these [federal] laws also include:

employment decisions based on stereotypes or assumptions about the abilities, traits, or performance of individuals of a certain sex, race, age, religion, or ethnic group, or individuals with disabilities; and
I'm lazy. Please point out where it says they can't base employment decisions on where someone received their degree(s) because I don't see it on the list you've quoted.
 
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Pythagorean said:
unless he works for DoD
He said Industry, that would be the government.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
He said Industry, that would be the government.
oh :blushing:
 
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Dr Transport said:
Optical measurements....how about that.....
Well, it's a start.

But I still do not see your point. Again, I still do not see how this is pertinent to the original question posed here about getting all of your degrees from the same institution.
Well, i was not reacting towards the original question. I was asking YOU about the fact why YOU cannot reveal your employer's name or the name of the company you work for. If all you do is optical measurements (which are, at least last time i checked, not revolutionary or harmful for the world) then why is your boss NOT allowing you to reveal the company's name. Now, don't just say, "it is our policy". You are entitled to ask questions, right ? So, surely, you must know why you cannot say that name ? Please tell me that. It might make things more clearer.

Finally, i work in a research institute where there is a non disclosure policy on the results that are acquired. Each of our groups has private meetings and this is a privacy that i respect. But that does NOT make it impossible for me to tell YOU where i work : IMEC. Don't just say : ohh, one day you will get oyut of school and ....There is no reason to treat me like a child, thankyouverymuch. I ain't stupid, ya know...

marlon
 
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marlon said:
So, surely, you must know why you cannot say that name ? Please tell me that. It might make things more clearer.
marlon
The reason is competative advantage.....If your competitors don't know you are doing something, they cannot get into the game and get ahead of you in securing external funding.

A nondisclosure policy is very different from a policy that requires denial that something exists.....Anyone that does not work in that world does not understand it. Our restrictions limit our searches on the internet because if someone traced our usage and search records they may be able to reverse engineer what we are working on.
 
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Dr Transport said:
A nondisclosure policy is very different from a policy that requires denial that something exists.....Anyone that does not work in that world does not understand it. Our restrictions limit our searches on the internet because if someone traced our usage and search records they may be able to reverse engineer what we are working on.
Yet you're allowed to post on a public message board?!? :surprised

Any admin could go to these boards controls and see where you're posting from - if not your exact computer, they would see your gateway, leading to your organisation...

Or is it soooooo secret, they rerout you through ''Bob's Hardware Supplies'' :wink: :biggrin:
 
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Dr Transport said:
The reason is competative advantage.....If your competitors don't know you are doing something, they cannot get into the game and get ahead of you in securing external funding.
But this is NOT the point. I NEVER asked you to talk about the actual content of your work. I understand all of what you say hereabove but this is NOT a reason for saying : i cannot tell you where i work. It seems to me this is more your typical "i wanna feel special be remaining secret"-type of behaviour.

To be clear, you have not yet provided us with a reason as to why you cannot reveal the name of the company you work for. Competition has nothing to do with that. We all know that Bill gates works for Microsoft but do you think we all knew what the newest Microsoft software was going to be in 1995 ?
i Mean, do you really tink that just by knowing Gates' name and the fact that he was/is a software developer, people were able to reverse engineer Windows 95 prior to it being released ? Ofcourse not, and this is a guy who is far more important than our entire community here,...,squared.





A nondisclosure policy is very different from a policy that requires denial that something exists.....Anyone that does not work in that world does not understand it. Our restrictions limit our searches on the internet because if someone traced our usage and search records they may be able to reverse engineer what we are working on.
Well, can be but then i guess i should not have used the "non disclosure part" because in the company i work for (do my PhD in) we have the exact same policy as the one you have just outlined.

marlon
 
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Question:

Let's say you are in fourth year and your are ready to apply to graduate school.

I was told that it is MUCH easier to get into the graduate school where you did you undergrauate since you should (hopefully) know most of the faculty.

It this generally true?

How is the application process to other schools?
I spoke to my physics advisor and she said she wouldn't accept anybody who did undergrad at the same school. :p
 

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