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Buoyancy and Height

  1. Dec 1, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A helium filled balloon is tied to a 2.00-m-long, 0.050 0-kg uniform string. The balloon is spherical with a radius of 0.400 m. When released, it lifts a length h of string and then remains in equilibrium as shown in figure P14.51. Determine the value of h. The envelope of the balloon has a mass of 0.250 kg.

    2. Relevant equations

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    ρ=  m⁄v

    v=  4/3 pi r^3

    B=ρ[SUB]air[/SUB] * g * V[SUB]obj[/SUB]

     


    3. The attempt at a solution

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        B=(1.29 kg⁄m^3 )(9.8 m⁄s^2 )(.26808 m^3)

        B=3.39 N   

        m_he=.047986

        F_g=Mg

        F_g=(.347986 kg)(9.8 m⁄s^2 )

        F_g=3.41 N

     
    This is something the prof. said to start with, I'm not sure how this helps aside from proving it has pretty much reached equillibrium. I really just don't know what formula that involves height will work.
     
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  3. Dec 1, 2009 #2

    mgb_phys

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    Think height in terms of weight of string not altitude
     
  4. Dec 1, 2009 #3
    Ok so here is the thought process I am having. Find the change in force, use F=ma to find how much mass is lifted (string). Use that to determine how much in h is lifted.

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    Code (Text):
    mass total / height total = mass lifted / height lifted)
    So do I use the small difference in force between my normal force and the buoyent force? .02N I know it doesn't move a significant amount.
     
  5. Dec 2, 2009 #4
    I haven't received a response but from what I can tell that is right. I did get the same answer as the prof, now I just have to find out if it was luck or if the process was correct. Thanks for the help!
     
  6. Dec 2, 2009 #5

    mgb_phys

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    At equilibrium bouyancy = weight = mass of length of string h + mass of envelope.


    ps. remember the people here are in different time zones
     
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