Bush Comming to my country

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Bush is comming to my country Argentina to the IV summit of the americas

Becouse of bush presence in the country:

3 bombs has been detonated, 1 in citybank, 1 in mcdonals, 1 in blockbuster. (All of them in the night no people injured)
There will be A national strike the day president Bush arrive against him
Masive movilizations allready are taking place in all around the country.
Bush has been denounced under the supreme court of Argentina with charges of Crimes against humainity, between others.
Knowing Bush is a soccer fun, now in almost all soccer matchs you can see people with big banners with things like: "Bush you son of a $·&", "Bush go HOME" etc.
There are expected masive movilizations of about half a millon people the days of the summit.
Maradona, the nr 1 soccer player in the world will be heading one of the movilizations against bush in the summit.

Anti Bush Rally
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/p1010028.jpg

Creating terrorists:
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/19.jpgt9sjlg.jpg
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/p1010048.jpg

The fight of the opresed people is the limit to tyrants!
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/pic_0042.jpg

Bush is comming :rofl: :rofl:
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/bush2.jpg

Big brother is you
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/14.jpg4auot5.jpg


Note: I will be posting in this topic until the summit the day friday 4..
 

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You know what I've always wondered? If a country (such as Argentina) decides that a foreign leader committed high crimes, is there ever a chance that they'd arrest him or her? (Probably not, due to the threat of an invasion.)
 
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Manchot said:
You know what I've always wondered? If a country (such as Argentina) decides that a foreign leader committed high crimes, is there ever a chance that they'd arrest him or her? (Probably not, due to the threat of an invasion.)
The problem is that if a goverment has not the support of us gov, it's realy dificult it to came to power. and if it does, it's probable that the cia will overtrow it. and i am talking for experience here... not making asumptions, y have plenty of examples for that. unless here in latin and central america that is the rule...
 
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Burnsys said:
Bush is comming to my country Argentina to the IV summit of the americas
Becouse of bush presence in the country:
3 bombs has been detonated, 1 in citybank, 1 in mcdonals, 1 in blockbuster. (All of them in the night no people injured)
Now that is really sad. I will never understand the mindset of a person who will hurt innocent people (or even risk it...nobody was injured, but you never know if someone might have unexpectedly been walking past when it happened) or destroy property as a form of protest.

There will be A national strike the day president Bush arrive against him
Masive movilizations allready are taking place in all around the country.
Bush has been denounced under the supreme court of Argentina with charges of Crimes against humainity, between others.
So, if the Argentinian supreme court has denounced him, why has Argentina invited him? I don't really understand that. Why not make it clear to him that he's not welcome by just not inviting him? Is there disagreement among high government officials about Bush?

Knowing Bush is a soccer fun, now in almost all soccer matchs you can see people with big banners with things like: "Bush you son of a $·&", "Bush go HOME" etc.
Tee hee...probably annoying if you just want to watch soccer without political commentary. I never watch soccer; I wonder if they show those parts of the crowd when they air a match in the US?

There are expected masive movilizations of about half a millon people the days of the summit.
Maradona, the nr 1 soccer player in the world will be heading one of the movilizations against bush in the summit.
Anti Bush Rally
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/p1010028.jpg
Creating terrorists:
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/19.jpgt9sjlg.jpg
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/p1010048.jpg
The fight of the opresed people is the limit to tyrants!
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/pic_0042.jpg
Bush is comming :rofl: :rofl:
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/bush2.jpg
Big brother is you
http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/14.jpg4auot5.jpg
Note: I will be posting in this topic until the summit the day friday 4..
I hope it remains peaceful and nobody gets hurt.
 
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You know what I've always wondered? If a country (such as Argentina) decides that a foreign leader committed high crimes, is there ever a chance that they'd arrest him or her? (Probably not, due to the threat of an invasion.)
Were you aware of this:

http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/08/aspa080302.htm

U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the "Hague invasion clause," has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.
 
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That's nice. Three and a half more years is it?
 
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Moonbear said:
Now that is really sad. I will never understand the mindset of a person who will hurt innocent people (or even risk it...nobody was injured, but you never know if someone might have unexpectedly been walking past when it happened) or destroy property as a form of protest.
Are you tallking about bush?? :rofl: :rofl: no klidding, yes i know, they put the bombs there becouse they are icons of American imperialism, and they did it in times where they where closed, anyway there is always the posibility someone get hurt.

Moonbear said:
So, if the Argentinian supreme court has denounced him, why has Argentina invited him? I don't really understand that. Why not make it clear to him that he's not welcome by just not inviting him? Is there disagreement among high government officials about Bush?
No, private citicenz denounced bushh in the supreme court.

Moonbear said:
Tee hee...probably annoying if you just want to watch soccer without political commentary. I never watch soccer; I wonder if they show those parts of the crowd when they air a match in the US?
Well, knowing that 80% of the people here in argentina dislikes bush, i don't thing they find it anoying.


I hope it remains peaceful and nobody gets hurt.
I hope the same, couse i will be there marching.
 
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What the hell is wrong with you people.. thats our President, we'll deal with him on our terms :grumpy:
 
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cronxeh said:
What the hell is wrong with you people.. thats our President, we'll deal with him on our terms :grumpy:
No cronex, he is the self apointed president of the world if you didn't notice it.. then we all have to deal with him..
 
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cronxeh said:
What the hell is wrong with you people.. thats our President, we'll deal with him on our terms :grumpy:
What a wonderful idea: letting a country deal with its leader on its own terms. Amen to that.
 
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Burnsys said:
No cronex, he is the self apointed president of the world if you didn't notice it.. then we all have to deal with him..
"Irregardless" of that, he is still the President of the United States, a title which has significance even if we disagree with who happens to hold that title. As such, the President will be defended both domestically and abroad. If we happen to impeach him, then you hippies in Argentina can do whatever you want with him, but until then he is the President and he's got his football and the finger on the button.
 
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Burnsys said:
Are you tallking about bush?? :rofl: :rofl: no klidding, yes i know, they put the bombs there becouse they are icons of American imperialism, and they did it in times where they where closed, anyway there is always the posibility someone get hurt.
Yeah, that was my point...protesting that he is hurting others by hurting others doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

No, private citicenz denounced bushh in the supreme court.
Oh, okay. I just don't understand enough about Argentina's government to have realized what that meant. Thanks for clarifying.

I hope the same, couse i will be there marching.
Stay safe! :smile:
 
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cronxeh said:
What the hell is wrong with you people.. thats our President, we'll deal with him on our terms :grumpy:
If he was only meddling in domestic policy, that would be a fair statement, but as long as he's meddling in foreign affairs, anyone affected by his policies certainly should have the right to take issue with him on it.
 
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Moonbear said:
If he was only meddling in domestic policy, that would be a fair statement, but as long as he's meddling in foreign affairs, anyone affected by his policies certainly should have the right to take issue with him on it.
By killing him abroad the issue wont be resolved, it will only put the American troops on their soil - because dont forget who will be the next President after current President - the current Vice President, oh with Republican domination of the Congress and Supreme Court, as well as Argentina having oil rest assured we'll be there within 24 hours
 
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cronxeh said:
If we happen to impeach him, then you hippies in Argentina can do whatever you want with him, but until then he is the President and he's got his football and the finger on the button.
Intelligent..! "Hippies" indeed. What an solid argument against freedom of expression (thinking more the banners than the bombs, needless to say).
 
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El Hombre Invisible said:
Intelligent..! "Hippies" indeed. What an solid argument against freedom of expression (thinking more the banners than the bombs, needless to say).
No maybe I come off as a bit arrogant to you, but honestly - who cares about those banners? We get to read intelligently constructed arguments in New York Times as it as, with your ranting on the streets in the middle of the autumn nobody really cares - its old rhetoric by now, we heard it time and time again, and then some.
 
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cronxeh said:
By killing him abroad the issue wont be resolved,
Who said anything about killing him? The topic is about protesting his visit. :confused:
 
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as well as Argentina having oil rest assured we'll be there within 24 hours
Judging by katrina, I doubt you would be there in a couple of weeks
 
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Anttech said:
Judging by katrina, I doubt you would be there in a couple of weeks
You'd be surprised :biggrin: *unpleasantly*

Moonbear said:
Who said anything about killing him? The topic is about protesting his visit. :confused:
Ah a good point, however I remember his visit to Georgia where they held similar protests and someone threw a grenade at him. I thought by posting one discombobulated response I'd kill all the birds associated with this issue of attacking the foreign country's leader.

Rememeber the assassination of Austria's Franz Ferdinand? Thats how world wars start.
 
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cronxeh said:
You'd be surprised :biggrin: *unpleasantly*
Ah a good point, however I remember his visit to Georgia where they held similar protests and someone threw a grenade at him. I thought by posting one discombobulated response I'd kill all the birds associated with this issue of attacking the foreign country's leader.
Rememeber the assassination of Austria's Franz Ferdinand? Thats how world wars start.
Do you know wich is the only country that has a "Foreing Leaders assesination policy" ???? You should...
 
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You'd be surprised *unpleasantly*
Why would I? I dont think your Country will in a million years "invade" mine... If you want to have a constructive arguement then lets, but this is just OTT speculation isnt it?
 
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cronxeh said:
You'd be surprised :biggrin: *unpleasantly*
Ah a good point, however I remember his visit to Georgia where they held similar protests and someone threw a grenade at him. I thought by posting one discombobulated response I'd kill all the birds associated with this issue of attacking the foreign country's leader.
If you were aware that your response was discombobulated, how could you have any expectations as to its effect?

cronxeh said:
Rememeber the assassination of Austria's Franz Ferdinand? Thats how world wars start.
Yes, it is a shame the assassination of Bush would probably not be interpreted as the gesture of good will no doubt intended.
 
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Roadblocks

Ok, today we had 3 roadblocks and 2 bridges bloked in protest against bush visits.
 
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Burnsys said:
Ok, today we had 3 roadblocks and 2 bridges bloked in protest against bush visits.
Sounds like this protest is going nowhere.
 
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El Hombre Invisible said:
Sounds like this protest is going nowhere.
Just wait....
Here is some information about the security measures to protect bush:
The city of mar del plata, a turistic city is now totaly militarized..
There are 3 rings of security around the places where the summit will be made. about 9000 police and security officials will be active protecting each one of the security rings, Bush alone take with him 1200 security persononel pluss how knows how many cia agents, he will be escolted by 4 figther jets, and there are rumors he will sleep in his plane...

The security Rings:
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/11/01/fotos/info4.jpg
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2005/11/01/fotos/t005dh01.jpg

People who live inside the security rings are forced to carry and ID to enter theyr own homes, they were all interrogated prior to get their ID and their houses were inspected.
Schools are closed

Police Stations were emptied and converted into Temporary detention centers.

http://argentina.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/10/pic_0079.jpg
 
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