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News Bush loosing it

  1. Mar 1, 2008 #1
    Is it just me or is Bush doing a lot worse in interviews lately. It almost looks like he is been drinking again, or doesn't care anymore. I really can't watch it anymore without feeling embarrassed for him and for this country.
     
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  3. Mar 1, 2008 #2
    Your assumption is that he cared or stopped drinking in the first place.

    Chocked on a pretzel? Please. He got drunk off his ass and fell over is more likely.
     
  4. Mar 1, 2008 #3

    Ivan Seeking

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    He's probably starting to get an inkling of just how much damage he's done.

    However, aside from a decrease in arrogance, to me he appears no more inept than before.


    I did enjoy his response to the reporter the other day.

    Reporter: Some analysts are predicting that gasoline will hit $4 a gallon this summer.

    Bush: Really, I hadn't heard that.
     
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  5. Mar 1, 2008 #4
    That's nothing. Several minutes later, when asked about one of the presidential candidates (I think) of Russia, he said he doesn't know much about him, because he's been spending more time on things like gas prices.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2008 #5

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    George Speaks, Badly
    By GAIL COLLINS, Op-Ed Columnist, NYTimes, March 15, 2008
    I think the US economy will recover much like New Orleans and the Gulf Coast have recovered from Katrina. A few have made out very well, and but many are still waiting or going without.
     
  7. Mar 16, 2008 #6

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    Soft Shoe in Hard Times
    By MAUREEN DOWD, Op-Ed, March 16, 2008
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    Love the analogy to Rachael Ray. :rofl:
     
  8. Mar 17, 2008 #7

    Ivan Seeking

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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23373396-2,00.html [Broken]
     
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  9. Mar 17, 2008 #8

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    Unbelievable. How truly horrifying.

    How I wish we had a parlimentary system and we could jettison this clueless jerk back to Texas!!
     
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  10. Mar 17, 2008 #9
    Cheney runs the show, Bush just dangles from the strings.
     
  11. Mar 17, 2008 #10

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    I'm not quite sure what's horrifying about those quotes. Could someone explain it?
     
  12. Mar 17, 2008 #11

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    There's nothing romantic about PTSD.

    There's nothing romantic about getting your legs blown off.

    There's nothing romantic about going to war for an idiot chicken hawk of a president.

    There's nothing romantic about being stop-lossed after you've done your duty to country.

    There's nothing romantic about this wrong-headed war, or any war.
     
  13. Mar 17, 2008 #12

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    Not to mention having one of your buddies getting blown apart beside or in front of you.

    Not to mention the innocents (collateral damage to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al).


    Bush is a disingenuous and vain coward.
     
  14. Mar 17, 2008 #13

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    Who said there was? Bush certainly didn't.

    But why do you think people join the military? It may not be the top reason, but it's up there. Remember, the US has an all volunteer military.
     
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  15. Mar 17, 2008 #14

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    I agree, to quote from the article
    Sounds ghastly.
     
  16. Mar 17, 2008 #15

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    What's horrifying is that the person who, when he was "slightly younger and not employed here", pulled every one of his daddy's strings to avoid going to the front lines, can now insult the troops who have volunteered to go to Iraq (right to their faces) with the words:

    What nerve!
     
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  17. Mar 17, 2008 #16

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    I'd have to disagree. Although I doubt how eager he'd be to defend his country in actual battle, working with a guy that has served two tours in Iraq and knowing someone that is there right now, they would disagree with the attitude people are taking in this thread.
     
  18. Mar 17, 2008 #17

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    With what?
     
  19. Mar 17, 2008 #18

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    I disagree that our troops would feel insulted by his speech. If you have articles proving that the troops felt insulted, I'd have to stand corrected.

    I tend to dislike the "lynch mob mentality" approach to anything. If you personally have issues with something a politician says, you have a right to feel that way. I think his "Bushisms" are a sad reflection on him personally and professionally. And is anyone surprised that a politician would stretch the truth? But I still am able to read and comprehend. I'm surprised that no one commented on what the rest of the article was about.
     
  20. Mar 17, 2008 #19

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    We have a cousin who during his forth tour in Iraq had to clean up the mess left when they blew away a bunch of civilians. He was real gun-ho until then, but now he's all screwed up.

    I have a customer whose kid ran to Iraq when Bush waived the flag, He came back as an alcoholic who can't hold down a job.

    I'm so envious. How glorious it must be.
     
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  21. Mar 17, 2008 #20

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    Since I never made such a claim, I don't see why I should prove it. What I did say was that the President's words were an insult to the troops. Whether or not they perceived the insult is not something I speculated about.

    Are you telling me I have a "lynch mob mentality"?

    So you see no hypocrisy in his words? It's perfectly fine for him to say that he would happily go to the front line if he was younger, when we all know that he did the exact opposite? And if we feel disgust at someone that would be so callous and dishonest, we are exhibiting a lynch mob mentality?

    I haven't read the article. Russ asked a specific question about a quote, and I answered that question.
     
  22. Mar 17, 2008 #21

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    I'm talking to everyone here. I find that people are so eager to bash people that they let other issues completely slide. I'm really tired of the bashing, it's just too "over the top" for me. I dislike Rachael Ray, I think she's a complete hack, but I can give her credit when I hear something positive about her, which I did earlier today (something I would never have thought possible).

    Of course I do and I said "I doubt how eager he'd be to defend his country in actual battle".

    Since you were quoting from the article, I naturally assumed you would have read it in order to know if what was posted was accurate or taken out of context.
     
  23. Mar 17, 2008 #22

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    I wasn't quoting from the article. I was quoting from Ivan's post. Russ asked specifically about the quotes in Ivan's post, and I was answering his question.
     
  24. Mar 17, 2008 #23

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    Um - no one questioned that. There is no mob mentality here - simply a common expression of incredulity at the braggadocio expressed by the president.

    Veterans, particularly combat veterans, I know would take exception to the president's statement.

    The rest of the article is not very informative.


    I do agree that the rest of the world does need to step into places like Afghanistan - but US policy has made that very difficult. Don't forget that during the Taliban regime, the principal US ally, the Northern Alliance, was responsible for the majority of opium production. The US did nothing to stop it!

    This is rather dated - but still pretty much reflects the situation today
    http://www.refugeesinternational.org/content/country/detail/2911/ [Broken]
    I'll see if I can get an update from these folks.

    One big problem in Afganistan has been the lack of iodine in the diet, as well as various other deficiencies. The UN and other agencies are providing iodized salt to the population.
    http://www.unicef.org/media/media_26054.html

    See also - http://www.theirc.org/where/asia_afghanistan_programs.html
     
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  25. Mar 17, 2008 #24

    Ivan Seeking

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    Bush's comments were over the top. Are you saying that we're not entitled to our opinions?

    What doesn't seem to get across to some people is that the outrage against Bush is genuine. It's not political anymore; it's personal. Bush went far beyond politics long ago. When I say that he should be tried for war crimes, I mean it. When I call him a traitor, I mean that too. And when I say that he is an enemy of the United States because of his transgressions against the Constitution, I mean every word of it. In fact that is how the Constitution defines the enemy. This is not bashing, this is sincerity and patriotism.
     
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  26. Mar 17, 2008 #25

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    Well... I'm a non-combat vet. So my perceptions of Bush are a bit skewed.

    But anyways, I've been saying for about the last 5 years, that all the people who voted for him, should sign up and volunteer to enter the military. We would have to remove all age restrictions of course. Give them all guns. Run over and defend what we are fighting for. Might reduce our Medicare costs over the next few decades......
     
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