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C.S Lewis

  1. Sep 4, 2011 #1
    I would like to ask.What's your opinion on C.S Lewis? I know he is a Christian apologist and wrote fantastic books. I saw some of the Narnia movies. Good quality movies.

    Here is the hard part. Some of his styles have been characterised as 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_science_fiction" [Broken]'. What do you think about his style, do you agree with it?

    My point is, his books hold a lot of imaginative value and have a stimulative effect. But, do you agree with the themes in his literature?
     
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  3. Sep 4, 2011 #2

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    I take books at face value, for the story, I ignore "deeper religious, social, or political" meaning. It ruins the fun of the story for me.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2011 #3
    a huge amount of storytelling draws from previous literature, such as roman and greek mythology. can you see elements of eastern religion and christianity in Star Wars? a huge chunk of the Disney catalog is rebranding of old world fables.

    but for something more timely, see JK Rowling's revelation that christian themes are prevalent in her books.
     
  5. Sep 4, 2011 #4
    garbage in my opinion
     
  6. Sep 4, 2011 #5
    I guess you can't cut away from the past when writing stories. But, I guess Arthur C Clarke is the guy to go with in this case.
     
  7. Sep 4, 2011 #6
    I haven't read the books but it seems Rowling pleased the Christian crowds with Potters 'resurrection' and implied afterlife in the story.
     
  8. Sep 4, 2011 #7

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    I liked the first 2 or 3 books of the series, but the further I got into the series the more metaphysical it became. I did not appreciate his take on it.

    I have not seen the movies and am only moderately disinterested in them.
     
  9. Sep 4, 2011 #8
    One thing regarding religion oriented stories or movies is that they are often based on the assumption that what you are doing is wrong or that the main character is lost and needs finding. All that existential mumbo-jumbo. It that sense I don't like religious movies or books that later inflict that mood onto the readers.

    I mean in Potters case he was 'carrying' the weight of pure evil inside his soul (anyone see the some connections here?).

    Note, I'm not saying that all religiously oriented stories require this sort of settlings. C.S Lewis being an exception.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2011 #9
    Some of his books were great imaginative fiction. Much more in the fantasy genre then science fiction. Voyage of the Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair, The Magician's nephew, all great stories. Although there are Christian themes (explicitly neo-platonist in the Dawn Treader), they are not distracting since God basically takes the form of a magical lion ( who doesn't NEED to specifically be Christ for the story to work.). On the other hand, in The Last Battle, the over the top messages are the story (and the themes here are particularly irritating to someone who is not a Christian, as it condemns various contemporary non-christian groups; such as theists, muslims, atheists, and skeptics.)


    The Screwtape Letters was a fascinating look at everyday psychology and people's motivations for basic actions or thoughts.. Alhough it was again based from a christian perspective, not all the lectures directly related to Christianity. There are a few gaping fallacies here as well, but the context make its fun, since it is a demon advising a demon on how to tempt humans, but the advice may or may not be good advice since there are contradictory motivations in play.
     
  11. Sep 4, 2011 #10

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    If you want to swing to the opposite end of the spectrum, Phillip Pullman's take is an atheist's take on the hypocrisy of religion. And the themes are as overt, if not moreso than CS Lewis' stories.
     
  13. Sep 5, 2011 #12
    I'd agree with this characterization.

    Don't know that "agreeing" with it is a correct way to assess his works of fiction. Liking or not liking it would be a better way to put it.

    Such as? Kids magically transporting through a wardrobe? Perelandra? His fiction was intended as entertainment with a message, but what fiction writer didn't have some message they wove throughout their works?
     
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  14. Sep 5, 2011 #13
    Literature is culture and religion or religiosity are part of culture. I find these things and the way they are presented in literature interesting. I read to 'experience' the author's expression of culture, whether I "agree with it" is irrelevant.
     
  15. Sep 5, 2011 #14

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    I particularly liked "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Horse and its boy".
     
  16. Sep 5, 2011 #15

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    I was surprisingly unimpressed by CS Lewis's stories as I read them to my kids. I found them not too much superior to other books such as the "Magic Treehouse" series. As far as the undertext, I have always been suspicious of and unimpressed by authors making their point through fiction and allegory. This goes for Ayn Rand AND J.H. Christ.
     
  17. Sep 5, 2011 #16

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    I have never read any of his not-for-kids books, so I'll suspend judgement on them.
     
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  18. Sep 5, 2011 #17
    He did write a trio of science fiction books, the first was "Out of the Silent Planet", it's a long time since I read them, but remember them as raising some interesting points.
     
  19. Sep 5, 2011 #18
    Yesterday I started reading 'Perelandra'. Didn't know it was part of a trilogy and haven't read the first part. Really liked it. There was a moment where C.S Lewis made the impression, "Your faculties of reason are no good here. Put them away or you'll ruin the story for yourself.". lol
     
  20. Sep 5, 2011 #19

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    Really? After an allegorical cleaning of the nursery what do you have left among children's books? Among the allegorically banished would be Dr Seuss, Grimm's fairy tales, Disney's originals, Aesop, Bible stories, derivatives of all the above, etc.
     
  21. Sep 5, 2011 #20
    I too read at least one of his SF novels. I think the 'Christian message' that this discussion started with really stems from these books. I distinctly remember one passage where a green skinned female from Venus talks to the first visitor from earth about what a glorious man Jesus was. That was a bit too blatant for me.

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