How can I find the second derivative of y=xtanx?

In summary, the conversation is about finding the second derivative of the equation y=xtanx. The correct first derivative is found using the product rule, and then the second derivative is found using the chain rule and product rule. The final answer is 2sec^2x + 2xsec^2x tanx.
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Hey,

Anyone out there able to help me out? I'm trying to find y'' of the equation y=xtanx. I found y' to equal 1(sec²x) but I don't know what to do after that. I know the final answer should be 2cosx + 2xsinx/ cos³x after being simplified and stuff, but I am clueless as to how to get there. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me!
 
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Nope,it can't be.Are u sure u want to compute

[tex] \frac{d^{2}(x\tan x)}{dx^{2}} [/tex]...?

Then better apply the Leibniz rule with care.

Daniel.
 
  • #3
You mean 2cosx + 2xsinx/ cos³x isn't the right answer or the y' I came up with to help me get the y'' isn't right?
 
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Do you how to get to this result

[tex] \frac{d(x\tan x)}{dx}=\tan x +x\sec^{2}x [/tex]...?

If u do,i don't see any reason not to compute the 2-nd derivative correctly.

Daniel.
 
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Oh,your final aswer for the 2-nd derivative is in terms of "sin" & "cos",u'd better conver the 1-st derivative to a form containing "sin" a "cos" b4 the differentiation.

Daniel.
 
  • #6
Your first derivative is wrong. You need to use the product rule. Do you remember it?
 
  • #7
Data is right use the product rule to find first derivative and in finding the second derivative also.

[tex] \frac{d(x\tan x)}{dx}=\tan x +x\sec^{2}x [/tex]


[tex] \frac{d^2(x\tan x)}{dx^2}= \frac{(2)(\cos{x} +x\sin{x})}{\cos^3{x}} [/tex]
 
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indeed. Or for the second derivative you can just take it without converting to sines and cosines and get [itex]2\sec^2{x} + 2x\sec^2{x}\tan{x}[/itex], an equivalent answer.
 
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indeed. Or for the second derivative you can just take it without converting to sines and cosines and get [itex]2\sec^2{x} + 2x\sec^2{x}\tan{x}[/itex], an equivalent answer.

Where did you get the 2's from? Why isn't it just [itex]sec^2{x} + sec^2{x}\tan{x}[/itex]
 
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[tex] \frac{d}{dx} (\tan{x} + x\sec^2{x}) = \sec^2{x} + \frac{d}{dx} x\sec^2{x}[/tex]

[tex] = \sec^2{x} + \left(\sec^2{x}\frac{d}{dx} x + x \frac{d}{dx}\sec^2{x}\right)[/tex] <------- Product Rule

[tex] = \sec^2{x} + \left(\sec^2{x} + x\left(2(\sec{x}\tan{x})\sec{x}\right)\right)[/tex] <----- Chain Rule

[tex] = \sec^2{x} + \sec^2{x} + 2x\sec^2{x}\tan{x}[/tex]

[tex] = 2\sec^2{x} + 2x\sec^2{x}\tan{x}[/tex]

Remember, when you're taking the derivative of a product, you need to use the product rule:

[tex] \frac{d}{dx} f(x)g(x) = f^\prime(x)g(x) + g^\prime(x)f(x) \neq f^\prime(x)g^\prime(x)[/tex]
 
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