Solving Calculus Equations with Curves Passing Through the Origin

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In summary, the discussion is about a set of curves that all pass through the origin and have equations y=f1(x), y=f2(x), y=f3(x)... where the derivative of each function is equal to the previous function and f1(x) = x^2. The conversation then discusses finding the expression for fn(x), as well as finding f2(x) and f3(x). The conclusion is reached that the derivative of a function is related to the function itself through the operation of the integral, and the process of finding the expressions for the functions is explained using integration.
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Hello

Could someone help me with this question please ?

A set of curves which all pass the origin, have equations :

y=f1(x)
y=f2(x)
y=f3(x)... where f ' n(x) = fn-1(x) and f1(x) = x^2

1.) find the expression for fn(x)

2.) find f2(x) and f3(x)

I don't know where to begin, especially the first question .


thanks


roger
 
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How is the derivative of a function related to the function itself? Through the operation of the integral. So

[tex]f_n'(x) =\frac{df_n}{dx} = f_{n-1}(x) \Leftrightarrow ...[/tex]
 
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Could somebody else explain further please ?
 
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Actually quasars tip is totally ok. I would have given the same answer... Just try it...f1 is x² and the derivative of f2 equals f1 = x²...So in order to find f2, just integrate x² with respect to x. You get x³/3...can you move on from here...


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Assuming you have genuinely been trying to solving the thing for the past 45 minutes, I'll complete the reasoning...

(Assuming f is continuous,)

[tex]\Leftrightarrow df_n = f_{n-1}(x)dx \Leftrightarrow \int_0^x df_n = \int_0^x f_{n-1}(x)dx \Leftrightarrow f_n(x) - f_n(0) = \int_0^x f_{n-1}(x)dx \Leftrightarrow f_n(x) - 0 = \int_0^x f_{n-1}(x)dx \Leftrightarrow f_n(x) = \int_0^x f_{n-1}(x)dx[/tex]

Because if they pass the origin, when x = 0, f = 0.
 

1. What is the process for solving calculus equations with curves passing through the origin?

The process for solving these equations involves finding the derivative of the curve, setting it equal to zero, and then solving for the value(s) of x that make the derivative equal to zero. These values of x will be the x-coordinates of the points where the curve intersects the x-axis, or passes through the origin.

2. Why is it important to find the points where the curve passes through the origin?

Finding the points where the curve passes through the origin is important because it allows us to determine the behavior of the curve at the origin. This can help us understand the overall shape of the curve and can be useful in finding the maximum or minimum points of the curve.

3. Can all calculus equations with curves passing through the origin be solved?

No, not all calculus equations with curves passing through the origin can be solved. Some curves may be too complex or may not have a simple algebraic solution. In these cases, numerical methods or approximation techniques may be used to find the points where the curve passes through the origin.

4. How do you know if a curve passes through the origin?

A curve passes through the origin if the coordinates of the origin (0,0) satisfy the equation of the curve. This means that when you substitute 0 for x and 0 for y in the equation, it should result in a true statement. For example, if the equation is y = 2x, when x = 0, y = 0, so the curve passes through the origin.

5. Are there any shortcuts or tricks for solving calculus equations with curves passing through the origin?

There are a few techniques that can be helpful in solving these equations. For example, if the equation is in the form of y = mx^n, where m and n are constants, the curve will always pass through the origin. Additionally, some equations may have symmetrical properties that can make it easier to find the points where the curve passes through the origin.

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