Calculus with Parametrics problem

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In summary, the problem is asking for all possible values of \frac{dy}{dx} at the point (0,1/2) where the position vector of an object is given by r(t) = <cos(3t), cos(2t)>. To solve this, you can use the chain rule to find the derivative of y, then find the values of t that correspond to the given point, and finally substitute them into the derivative to find all possible values. The valid values of t are {t = (π/6), (5π/6), (7π/6), & (11π/6)}, which give possible values of \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2}{
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Hey guys, I'm having difficulty understanding exactly what this problem is asking:

The position vector of an object for [tex]t\geq0[/tex] is [tex]r(t) = <cos(3t),cos(2t)>[/tex].
Find all possible values of [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] at the point [tex](0,1/2)[/tex].

Seriously, what does this mean?
 
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Well, you have [itex]y = \cos{2t}[/itex] and [itex]x = \cos{3t}[/itex]. You can use the chain rule

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy}{dt}\frac{dt}{dx}[/tex]

to find the derivative of [itex]y[/itex], then you'll need to solve [itex]\cos{2t}=\frac{1}{2}, \ \cos{3t}=0[/itex] to find the values of [itex]t[/itex] corresponding to the point [itex](0, 1/2)[/itex], substitute those into the derivative that you found (which should be in terms of [itex]t[/itex]) and find all its possible values.
 
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Thanks, here's what I did:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy/dt}{dx/dt} = \frac{2sin(2t)}{3sin(3t)}[/tex]

Then,

[tex]cos(2t) = \frac{1}{2}[/tex] when [tex]t = \frac{\pi}{4}, \frac{3\pi}{4}[/tex], etc and

[tex]cos(3t) = 0[/tex] when [tex]t = \frac{\pi}{6}, \frac{3\pi}{6}[/tex], etc, and

[tex]\frac{2sin(2t)}{3sin(3t)}[/tex] has possible values: [tex]\frac{2}{3},\frac{-2}{3}[/tex].

Is that right?
 
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ChickenChakuro said:
Thanks, here's what I did:

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy/dt}{dx/dt} = \frac{2sin(2t)}{3sin(3t)}[/tex]

Then,

[tex]cos(2t) = \frac{1}{2}[/tex] when [tex]t = \frac{\pi}{4}, \frac{3\pi}{4}[/tex], etc and

[tex]cos(3t) = 0[/tex] when [tex]t = \frac{\pi}{6}, \frac{3\pi}{6}[/tex], etc, and

[tex]\frac{2sin(2t)}{3sin(3t)}[/tex] has possible values: [tex]\frac{2}{3},\frac{-2}{3}[/tex].

Is that right?
Valid "t" values are {t = (π/6), (5π/6), (7π/6), & (11π/6)}, for which:
{dy/dx = (+√3)/3=(+0.577) :OR: (-√3)/3=(-0.577)}


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The point is that you can't say "cos(2t)= 1/2)" for t= ...
and "cos(3t)= 0 for t= ...". Each value of t must give both cos(2t)= 1/2 and sin(3t)= 0.
 
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Thanks guys. Got it :)
 

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