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In summary: It is recommended to typeset your work rather than attaching a photo for easier understanding. In summary, in order to prove that cs_0 = \sup(cS), you need to consider two cases: either \sup(cS) < cM or \sup(cS) > cM. In the first case, there may not be any s_0 \in S such that s_0 < M, and in the second case, there may not be any s_0 which will give the exact equality. This can be shown through the example of S = \{q \in \mathbb{Q}: q^2 < 2\} and c = 1. Therefore, it is
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It would be easier to give a good response if you would typeset your work here instead of pasting a photo.

Your proof is incorrect. The following statement is not necessarily true:

"Then for some [itex]s_0 \in S[/itex] such that [itex]s_0 < M[/itex], we have [itex]cs_0 = \sup(cS)[/itex]."

There are two problems with this statement. First, there may not be any [itex]s_0 \in S[/itex] such that [itex]s_0 < M[/itex], for example, if [itex]S[/itex] contains exactly one point. Second, there may not be any [itex]s_0[/itex] which will give this exact equality: [itex]cs_0 = \sup(cS)[/itex]. For example, consider [itex]S = \{q \in \mathbb{Q}: q^2 < 2\}[/itex] and [itex]c = 1[/itex]. Then [itex]\sup(cS) = \sqrt{2}[/itex] and clearly this does not equal [itex]cs_0[/itex] for any [itex]s_0 \in S[/itex], because [itex]S[/itex] contains only rational numbers.
 
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Artusartos said:

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Assuming that [itex]\displaystyle \sup(\text{S})=M\ :[/itex]

If [itex]\displaystyle \sup(c\text{S})\ne cM\,,\ \text{ then either }\ \sup(c\text{S})< cM\ \text{ or } \sup(c\text{S})> cM\ .[/itex]

If [itex]\displaystyle \ \sup(c\text{S})> cM\,,\ \text{ then there exists}\ cs_0\in c\text{S}\ \text{ such that }\ cs_0>cM\ .\ \ \ ... [/itex]

That should quickly lead to a contradiction.

Then do the other case.
 
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Assuming that [itex]\displaystyle \sup(\text{S})=M\ :[/itex]

If [itex]\displaystyle \sup(c\text{S})\ne cM\,,\ \text{ then either }\ \sup(c\text{S})< cM\ \text{ or } \sup(c\text{S})> cM\ .[/itex]

If [itex]\displaystyle \ \sup(c\text{S})> cM\,,\ \text{ then there exists}\ cs_0\in c\text{S}\ \text{ such that }\ cs_0>cM\ .\ \ \ ... [/itex]

That should quickly lead to a contradiction.

Then do the other case.

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