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Can drinking help me get in shape?

  1. May 16, 2004 #1

    ShawnD

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    When drunk I can do 50% more weight at the same amount of reps (real numbers there, not made up). By conventional means, doing more weight will allow one to gain more muscle faster, but alcohol is not exactly conventional. One must drink large amounts of water in order for anything to happen, but alcohol is known to dehydrate the body.

    Will drinking alcohol allow me to gain more weight faster, or the opposite?
     
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  3. May 16, 2004 #2

    chroot

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    It'll probably dull your sense of pain, thus allowing you to tear more muscle fibers, thus allowing you to build more muscle.

    - Warren
     
  4. May 16, 2004 #3
    Right after you accidently drop the weights on yourself, of course.

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  5. May 16, 2004 #4

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    If you're retarded enough to drop weights; soberness isn't enough to save you :wink:
     
  6. May 16, 2004 #5
    How can you be so callous to those that die every year to mysterious flying weights?!

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  7. May 16, 2004 #6
    Getting drunk and exercizing... "look at me ma, im runnin!" *crash* as the person suddenly falls flat onto the floor.
     
  8. May 16, 2004 #7
    Maybe you can...Drink and... drink and drink... and drink... until you think yourself exercised. :)
     
  9. May 16, 2004 #8

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    its possible, what are you drinking?

    Beer has many vitamins and minerals, some beers enough to meet ones daily requirements.

    But yes, it does dehydrate you quickly. Perhaps if you use alcohol, and some kind of healthy chaser (gatorade???) you can avoid this problem.
     
  10. May 16, 2004 #9
    How do people find the most awkward excueses to drink...
     
  11. May 17, 2004 #10
    Alcohol vs. creatine and caffeine for strength training

    My understanding is that training closer to muscle failure -- not training with more weight -- results in gaining more muscle, faster. You can do this without any weights at all, if you have enough patience. The idea is to do reps until you can't complete any more, and then continue with the set, for as long as possible and without a rest, by attempting the erstwhile next rep.



    Creatine has been observed in peer-reviewed studies to be effective and relatively safe (there have been reports of muscle cramping and reduced renal function) for building muscle mass. It will help you lift more and recover faster, and will result in improved muscle gains from equivalent amounts of training.

    Caffeine may help, as well, by giving you more mental energy and endurance during training:


    • Recent findings suggest that low doses of caffeine exert significant ergogenic effects by directly affecting the central nervous system during exercise. Caffeine can cross the blood-brain barrier and antagonize the effects of adenosine, resulting in higher concentrations of stimulatory neurotransmitters.
    Acute alcohol administration has been observed to temporarily change the plasma testosterone/androstenedione ratio. This may be helping you or or hurting you.


    Creatine is available in a variety of forms most cost-effectively from both beyond-a-century.com (BAC; search for "creatine") and iherb.com. Caffeine is available in several energy formulations at iherb and as intrinsic parts of green tea and guarana supplements from both iherb and BAC (search for "caffeine"). You also might want to check out Durk and Sandy's Blast and Fast Blast.



    In the future, please post your science questions in one of the science forums and not in the PF Lounge. Thank you for your cooperation.
     
  12. May 17, 2004 #11
    Yes, drinking will help you get into shape. Providing of course that the shape you are looking for is wide and flabby around the middle.
     
  13. May 17, 2004 #12

    ShawnD

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    Thanks for the info, hitssquad.
    I'll try that more reps way instead; it might just work :wink:.

    I'll have buff arms in no time :biggrin:
     
  14. May 17, 2004 #13

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    I don't know about caffeine; everytime I exercise (either lifting or bouldering or climbing) after having some caffeine, I notice a marked decrease in my physical ability. What I mean is that even a small amount of exertion brings about a rapid heart rate, a sweat, and a feeling of being overworked. When I don't have caffeine, my reps and climbing moves are smoother, easier, and better controlled.

    It's possible that I'd actually be able to lift more weight or do more reps when hopped up on caffeine, but I've never tried. I do the same routine almost every day, and caffeine makes it much less enjoyable. It would probably feel pretty uncomfortable to really exert myself while on it.

    - Warren
     
  15. May 18, 2004 #14
    Drinking? (How About Speed?)

    Drinking is a dangerous hobby.

    However, I'd be a bit more concerned if I dropped 1 gram of high-power methamphetamines, and somebody handed me a state-of-the art Fighter Aircraft.

    Hang on, doesn't the USA GROUND their fighter pilots if they don't drop that GOEY?

    YEE-HAW!
    (I've been up for five days and haven't slept or eaten)
     
  16. May 18, 2004 #15

    ShawnD

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    What are you ranting about now?
     
  17. May 18, 2004 #16
    Official amphetamine use in the US Air Force

    The USAF sometimes requires its pilots to ingest class-II stimulants such as amphetamines:



    • The Air Force calls the amphetamines it distributes to pilots "go pills."
     
  18. May 18, 2004 #17
    Thanks Hitssquad for clearing it up. I hope Nommos is catching up on his sleep now ( :zzz: ).
     
  19. May 18, 2004 #18
    Ever seen The Legend of Drunken Master with Jackie Chan?
     
  20. May 18, 2004 #19
    Alcohol inhibits your body's natural breakdown and usage of proteins in your diet.

    Drinking may let you lift more because you aren't holding yourself back, but your muscles grow outside of the gym, not in.

    In short, no drinking will not be good.
     
  21. May 18, 2004 #20
    Try 3000 jump ropes a day... I think that'll help.
     
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