Dear moderator - sometimes a thread gets so full of irrelevant information that it is no use to anybody, including the OP. The problem is nobody is going to read it, even if there is a useful answer buried at the bottom. Frustrating. I would like to close it and start a new thread asking the question a different way. Please let me know if you can do this and I will send you the link. Would really appreciate it. I am still hoping to get an answer.