Investigating the Physics of a Candle Seesaw

In summary, the conversation discusses the physics equations that describe the system of a lit candle behaving like a seesaw. The equations include Newton's Laws and the equation of motion for a pendulum with two weights, taking into account the rate of weight loss depending on the angle. Assumptions are made for the mass and length of the candles, and factors such as enthalpy of fusion, surface tension, and burning rate are considered.
  • #1
Robben
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Homework Statement



This isn't homework but I don't know where to post this type of questions so I will post it here.

But, I am wondering what are the physics equations that describes the system of a candle that is lit and behaves like a seesaw?

I have attached an image.

Explanation:

A candle, which is balanced between a pair of glasses (can be anything really), seesaws up and down on its own. The motion continues as long as the candle continues to burn.

Homework Equations



Newton's Laws

The Attempt at a Solution



Lets neglect the air currents in the room and since we can't easily calculate the mass distribution as a function of time, let's make assumptions for the mass and length of the candles. Can we estimate an equation for how mass is loss and thus, how the center of mass moves and taking into account that there is chaos in the system?
 

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Robben said:
Can we estimate an equation for how mass is loss
Anything can be estimated. Can there always be a good estimate? Who knows. In this case, you've got two approximately matched wick lengths, a higher melting rate and drip rate on the "low" end of the candle, leading to higher rate of mass loss, on the "heavy" end, and oscillation. Hunt up enthalpy of fusion of paraffin, beeswax, whatever, surface tension of molten wax (gives you drop size), actual burning rate for given wick length, enthalpy of combustion, and have a party.
 
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I was more concerned with the classical mechanics equations (like torque) behind it rather than the thermodynamics.
 
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Torque is going to be a function of rate of mass loss, drip rate, a function of the burning rate. If you want just to count the drip rates at high and low ends, and look at oscillation rates as a function of how far the pivot axis is above the center of mass that also works.
 
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But what will the equation of motion for the candle seesaw be? For example, the equation of motion for a pendulum would be ##\theta''=-g/R\sin\theta.##
 
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It's like a horizontal pendulum with two weights, except that the weights decrease in time and the rate of weight loss depends on the angle.
 
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bigfooted said:
It's like a horizontal pendulum with two weights, except that the weights decrease in time and the rate of weight loss depends on the angle.

I see, thank you!
 

1. What is the purpose of investigating the physics of a candle seesaw?

The purpose of investigating the physics of a candle seesaw is to better understand the principles of energy and motion, as well as the behavior of heat and gas transfer. It can also serve as a fun and interactive way to learn about scientific concepts.

2. How does the candle seesaw work?

The candle seesaw works by utilizing the principles of energy transfer and conservation. As the lit candle heats the air inside the seesaw, the air expands and pushes the water out of the opposite end. This creates a difference in weight distribution, causing the seesaw to tilt towards the side with the lit candle.

3. What factors can affect the performance of a candle seesaw?

The performance of a candle seesaw can be affected by various factors such as the type and size of the candle, the distance between the candle and the water, the type of material used for the seesaw, and the surrounding temperature and air pressure.

4. How can the physics of a candle seesaw be applied in real life?

The physics of a candle seesaw can be applied in various real-life scenarios, such as understanding the behavior of hot air balloons, creating heat-powered engines, and even in cooking techniques that involve heat transfer and energy conservation.

5. What are some safety precautions to keep in mind when conducting an experiment with a candle seesaw?

Some safety precautions to keep in mind when conducting an experiment with a candle seesaw include keeping a safe distance from the lit candle, using proper protective gear, and ensuring proper ventilation in the experimental area. It is also important to have adult supervision and to follow all safety guidelines and instructions.

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