Capacitor Paradox: How Can Voltage Stay Constant When Charge Density Increases?

In summary, the conversation discusses the insertion of a dielectric into a capacitor with a constant voltage of 10V supplied by a battery. The electric field, charge density, capacitance, and potential energy are all affected by this insertion. The concept of the electric field strength in the dielectric being less than in vacuum or air is explained, and it is noted that the voltage must remain constant for this to occur. The summary concludes that after the dielectric is inserted, the voltage and electric field remain the same, but the charge density increases.
  • #1
lillybeans
68
1
So as I was doing my sample physics midterm, I realized a paradox or a concept that I just haven't fully grasped, hence I see a problem.

Homework Statement



Suppose we have two parallel plates of a capacitor with:
capacitance C,
area A,
distance of separation D,
a constant voltage V=10V supplied by the battery that is connected to the capacitor,
electric field E=V/d,
surface charge density σ=(E*ε0)

As we insert a piece of dielectric wth κ=1275 WHILE THE CAPACITOR REMAINS CONNECTED TO THE 10V battery, find the NEW:
Electric field (E1),
charge density σ1,
Capacitance (C1),
Potential Energy U.

The Attempt at a Solution



So here is the paradox.

1. Since capacitor is still connected to the battery, V across capacitor must remain constant, so V1=V=10V.
2. If V is constant, and C increases due to the insertion of the dielectric, then total Q must increase.
3. if total Q increases, then the charge density must increase since A is the same. if σ (charge density) increases, then the new electric field must also increase, since E1=σ1/ε
4. If the electric field increases, the new voltage is given by V1=E1D. D remains the same, E1 increases, so the new voltage increases. However, we were just told that the voltage is held constant at 10V, so how can it increase and stay at 10V at the same time? This does not make sense to me!

Please explain! Many thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
The field strength in the dielectric is LESS than the field strength for vacuum (or air).

The capacitance goes up (k*C) and the field strength goes down (E/k).
 
  • #3
gneill said:
The field strength in the dielectric is LESS than the field strength for vacuum (or air).

The capacitance goes up (k*C) and the field strength goes down (E/k).

But if the electric field goes down, so must the voltage (V=Ed). However, it is told in the question that the voltage must remain constant. How does that work?
 
  • #4
lillybeans said:
But if the electric field goes down, so must the voltage (V=Ed). However, it is told in the question that the voltage must remain constant. How does that work?

Ah. In the case where the voltage is forced to remain constant, E = V/d remains constant. With a dielectric with dielectric constant ##\kappa##, the capacitance is given by:

## C = \kappa \epsilon_o \frac{A}{d} ##

The charge on the capacitor is then

## Q = V \;C ##

so that ## Q = V\left(\kappa \epsilon_o \frac{A}{d} \right)##

That makes the charge density

##\sigma = \frac{Q}{A} = V \frac{\kappa \epsilon_o}{d} ##

and the field strength

## E = \frac{V}{d} = \frac{\sigma}{\kappa \epsilon_o} ##

So the electric field strength is divided by ##\kappa## for the given charge density.
 
  • #5
gneill said:
Ah. In the case where the voltage is forced to remain constant, E = V/d remains constant. With a dielectric with dielectric constant ##\kappa##, the capacitance is given by:

## C = \kappa \epsilon_o \frac{A}{d} ##

The charge on the capacitor is then

## Q = V \;C ##

so that ## Q = V\left(\kappa \epsilon_o \frac{A}{d} \right)##

That makes the charge density

##\sigma = \frac{Q}{A} = V \frac{\kappa \epsilon_o}{d} ##

and the field strength

## E = \frac{V}{d} = \frac{\sigma}{\kappa \epsilon_o} ##

So the electric field strength is divided by ##\kappa## for the given charge density.

Thank you. So is it correct for me to say that after the dielectric has been inserted with the battery connected, V stays the same, E stays the same as before, but σ has gone up?
 
  • #6
lillybeans said:
Thank you. So is it correct for me to say that after the dielectric has been inserted with the battery connected, V stays the same, E stays the same as before, but σ has gone up?

Sure.
 

1. What is a capacitor?

A capacitor is an electronic component that stores electrical energy in the form of an electric field. It consists of two conductive plates separated by an insulating material, known as a dielectric. When a voltage is applied to the capacitor, it charges up and stores the electrical energy.

2. What is the paradox of capacitors?

The paradox of capacitors refers to the fact that capacitors can store a large amount of energy despite having a very small physical size. This is due to the fact that capacitors store energy in an electric field rather than in a physical medium, allowing them to have a high energy density.

3. How do capacitors work?

Capacitors work by storing electrical energy in the form of an electric field. When a voltage is applied, one plate of the capacitor becomes positively charged and the other plate becomes negatively charged. This creates an electric field between the plates, which stores the energy. The larger the surface area of the plates and the closer the plates are together, the higher the capacitance and the more energy the capacitor can store.

4. Are capacitors used in any real-life applications?

Yes, capacitors have a wide range of applications in everyday life. They are commonly used in electronic devices such as computers, cameras, and smartphones to regulate voltage and store energy. They are also used in power systems for energy storage and power factor correction.

5. Can capacitors be dangerous?

Capacitors can be dangerous if not handled properly. They can store a large amount of energy and can discharge it quickly, potentially causing electric shock or fire. It is important to follow safety precautions when working with capacitors, such as discharging them before handling and using proper insulation.

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
352
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
26
Views
574
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
13
Views
2K
Back
Top