Finding the Mass of a Suspended Necklace Using the Center of Mass Method

In summary, if a necklace is suspended from one end of a meter stick, the balance point moves 16.3 cm towards the end with a mass of .19 kg.
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vworange
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Been trying this one using:
x1m1 = x2m2

I guess I just maybe am not using the right mass or length for center of mass..

Here's the question:

A 0.19 kg meter stick balances at its center. If a necklace is suspended from one end of the stick, the balance point moves 16.3 cm toward that end. What is the mass of the necklace?
 
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You need to use calculus, not physics. Look up center of mass of a rod on google.

I don't remember the formulas, that was like two months ago.
 
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don't mislead him, no calculas is needed in this problem, the center of mass of a rod is at its mid-point...
here is some hint:
draw the graph first, and find the torque for LHS and RHS... the torque of the necklace is straight forward, but the torque for the rod is a bit tricky...
 
  • #4
vworange said:
Been trying this one using:
x1m1 = x2m2

I guess I just maybe am not using the right mass or length for center of mass..

Here's the question:

A 0.19 kg meter stick balances at its center. If a necklace is suspended from one end of the stick, the balance point moves 16.3 cm toward that end. What is the mass of the necklace?
The stick has a mass/length of .19 kg/m or 1.9 g/cm.=[itex]\rho[/itex] The torque when the necklace is added and the balance point is moved is 0:

[tex]M_nd_1 + \rho d_1^2/2 - \rho d_2^2/2 = 0[/tex]

[itex]d_1 = 33.7[/itex] and [itex] d_2 = 66.3 cm[/itex]

(you can think of the torque from one side of the stick as a point mass sitting half way between the end and the balance point on a massless stick).

AM
 
  • #5
There's no need to divide the rod into 2 pieces and to calculate the torque of each of them.

This problem is as simple as 1,2,3. :zzz:

Look:

Write the equation of the torques around the new ballance point:

15*0.2=35*m
m~0.09kg

That's it!
Enjoy physics!
 

1. What is the center of mass of a necklace?

The center of mass of a necklace is the point where all the mass of the necklace is evenly distributed. It is also known as the center of gravity.

2. How is the center of mass of a necklace calculated?

The center of mass of a necklace can be calculated by finding the balance point of the necklace. This can be done by suspending the necklace from a point and drawing a vertical line from the suspension point to the bottom of the necklace. The center of mass will be where this line intersects the necklace.

3. Does the shape of a necklace affect its center of mass?

Yes, the shape of a necklace can affect its center of mass. Necklaces with irregular or asymmetrical shapes will have a different center of mass compared to necklaces with a regular or symmetrical shape.

4. Why is the center of mass important in a necklace?

The center of mass is important in a necklace because it determines the stability of the necklace. A necklace with a lower center of mass will be more stable and less likely to shift or tilt, while a necklace with a higher center of mass may be more prone to movement or falling off.

5. Is the center of mass the same as the geometric center of a necklace?

No, the center of mass and the geometric center of a necklace are not always the same. The geometric center is the point where the necklace can be divided into two equal halves, while the center of mass takes into account the distribution of mass throughout the necklace.

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