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Center of mass question.

  1. Oct 29, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    A person with mass m1 = 67.0 kg stands at the left end of a uniform beam with mass m2 = 91.0 kg and a length L = 3.3 m. Another person with mass m3 = 56.0 kg stands on the far right end of the beam and holds a medicine ball with mass m4 = 12.0 kg (assume that the medicine ball is at the far right end of the beam as well). Let the origin of our coordinate system be the left end of the original position of the beam as shown in the drawing. Assume there is no friction between the beam and floor.

    What is the new x-position of the person at the left end of the beam? (How far did the beam move when the ball was throw from person to person?)

    I previously solved for the center of mass for the system, which came out to be about 1.65 m. This answer was correct, and I have been using it for my equations since.


    2. Relevant equations

    Xcm = [(m1)(x) + m2(x) + m3(x) + ... + mn(x)]/(m1 + m2 + m3 + ... + mn)

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I know that the center of mass does not change, so the system must act according to reorient itself. This means that the position of the beam is what changes. If we take the initial position of the person at the left end of the beam to be x = 0, this is the equation for the center of mass before the ball is thrown:

    BEFORE:
    Xcm = [(67)(0) + (91)(1.65) + (56)(3.3) + (12)(3.3)]/(67+91+56+12)
    = 1.65 m

    This is the center of mass. If we let x = the distance moved by the beam after the ball is thrown, we get the following equation:

    AFTER:
    1.65 = [(67)(x) + (91)(1.65+x) + (56)(3.3+x) + (12)(0.0 + x)]/(67+91+56+12)

    And you simply solve for x to find the distance moved. The reason why the position of the medicine ball is now 0 in the after equation is because it was thrown to the left, and caught by the person on the left who was previously at the origin.

    When I solve for x, I get x=0.167 m. I've double checked to make sure I'm not making any algebra mistakes or something like that. I feel like this should be the correct answer, but for some reason, it is wrong. Can anyone help me find out what I did wrong with my reasoning?
     
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  3. Oct 29, 2012 #2

    mfb

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    WolframAlpha gives 1.657m for the center of mass and 0.175m for the displacement, using your formulas as input. Probably just a typo in the calculator?

    Cross-check: (67+91+56)kg=214kg move x to the right, 12kg move 3.3m - x to the left. Solving 214*x=12*(3.3m-x) gives x=0.175m.
     
  4. Oct 29, 2012 #3
    That was right, thank you! I was worried I was making a mistake in my reasoning. I'm glad that wasn't it. I should double check my numbers before punching them into the calculator blindly next time. Thanks again! :D
     
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