Find the Center of the Universe?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of the center of the universe and whether or not it exists. Some believe that the universe does not have a center, while others argue that it does based on different theories and analogies. The conversation also touches on the limitations of human perception and understanding when it comes to the vastness of the universe. Finally, it is mentioned that personal theories and speculation are not allowed on the Physics Forums platform.
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Where is the center of Univers or we have still to find the center of universe or there is no center of univers.

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nilesh
 
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We haven't found a center. We don't even believe a center exists, and we have very good reasons for believing this. Too many to list here. I suggest looking around the Cosmology forum and reading all you can about this.
 
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So concept of universe is, without a center. When an atom having a center a nucleou but this big universe will not have that essential part. Becouse as per Sir, Hawkin's, all the galaxis are posted at a balloon like shape universe . but still that balloon have a center. So there must be a center.

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nilesh_pat said:
When an atom having a center a nucleou but this big universe will not have that essential part. Becouse as per Sir, Hawkin's, all the galaxis are posted at a balloon like shape universe . but still that balloon have a center. So there must be a center.

Nonsense. The balloon analogy is exactly that. An analogy. It only applies to how the universe expands, not to its actual shape. The full description involves an understanding of advanced geometry and topology. There is no reason that there must be a center.
 
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nilesh_pat said:
So concept of universe is, without a center. When an atom having a center a nucleou but this big universe will not have that essential part. Becouse as per Sir, Hawkin's, all the galaxis are posted at a balloon like shape universe . but still that balloon have a center. So there must be a center.

Regards

Nilesh.
You misinterpret the analogy. The Universe is only the surface of the balloon and it is perfectly fine to describe it in mathematical terms without assuming there is an interior or exterior (we would say an "embedding in a higher dimensional space"). Where would you say the center of the surface is?
 
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Our Hubble radius provides the illusion we are at the center of the observable universe. We cannot see beyond the surface of last scattering, which is at the same distance in every direction.
 
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Drakkith said:
Nonsense. The balloon analogy is exactly that. An analogy. It only applies to how the universe expands, not to its actual shape. The full description involves an understanding of advanced geometry and topology. There is no reason that there must be a center.

So in advance geometry we do not study about center. How will you calculate the Volume of Balloon. it diameter and hight is given. No -2, how much further more Sir, S. Hawkin is thinking about his concept.

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Nilesh
 
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Chronos said:
Our Hubble radius provides the illusion we are at the center of the observable universe. We cannot see beyond the surface of last scattering, which is at the same distance in every direction.

Do we live in illusion. interesting. We have seen, that what, we had not seen earlier. Do you agree ?

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Nilesh
 
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We see everything the age of the universe and speed of light permits us to see.
 
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Orodruin said:
You misinterpret the analogy. The Universe is only the surface of the balloon and it is perfectly fine to describe it in mathematical terms without assuming there is an interior or exterior (we would say an "embedding in a higher dimensional space"). Where would you say the center of the surface is?

So, We have to dig embedding surface, whether it is higher or lower dimension.

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Nilesh
 
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Chronos said:
We see everything the age of the universe and speed of light permits us to see.

Mean's, it's human disability we do not see, which we want to see.

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nilesh
 
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nilesh_pat said:
Mean's, it's human disability we do not see, which we want to see.

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nilesh
No, you are constantly misinterpreting what people are telling you and making your own interpretations. Please read what people are actually saying or this thread will be closed.
 
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Orodruin said:
No, you are constantly misinterpreting what people are telling you and making your own interpretations. Please read what people are actually saying or this thread will be closed.

My concept is clear about the " Center of Univers" and it will appear one day, no matter what you say today. No. 2, Regarding closing the thread it's up to you. Any way, thanks a lot.

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Nilesh.
 
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It is clear that your concept is not compatible with current knowledge. Please be aware that personal theories and speculation is not allowed at Physics Forums. Thread closed.
 

1. What is the center of the universe?

The center of the universe is a theoretical point that is believed to be the center of all matter and energy. However, there is no scientific evidence to support the existence of a specific center of the universe.

2. How do scientists determine the center of the universe?

Scientists use various methods such as studying the cosmic microwave background radiation, observing the distribution of galaxies, and measuring the expansion of the universe to estimate the center of the universe. However, these methods only provide approximations and do not pinpoint a specific location.

3. Is the center of the universe constantly changing?

Yes, the center of the universe is constantly changing due to the expansion of the universe. As the universe expands, new matter and energy are constantly being created, causing the center of the universe to shift.

4. Can we ever find the exact center of the universe?

It is highly unlikely that we will ever be able to find the exact center of the universe. The universe is vast and constantly expanding, making it impossible to pinpoint a specific location as the center.

5. Why is finding the center of the universe important?

Finding the center of the universe is important for understanding the origins and evolution of the universe. It can also help us to better understand the laws of physics and the fundamental principles that govern our universe.

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