Calculate Centre of Mass with Unknown Mass: Ricardo & Carmelita on Canoe

In summary, Ricardo (80Kg) and Carmelita are in a 30Kg canoe at Lake Merced. They exchange seats, 3m apart and symmetrically located, causing the canoe to move 40 cm relative to a submerged log. Ricardo calculates Carmelita's unknown mass (M) by finding the center of mass of the canoe with both of them in it.
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Ricardoof mass 80Kg, and Carmelita, who is lighter, are enjoying Lake Merced at dusk in a 30Kg canoe. When the canoe is at rest in the placid water, they exchange seats, which are 3m apart and symmetrically located with respect to the canoe's centre. Ricardo notices that the canoe moves 40 cm relative to a submerged log during the exchange and calculates Carmelita's mass, which she has not told him. What is it?

I'm guessing that I should first find The COM of the canoe with the people in it. How can I do this with an unknown second mass?
 
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Lets say the unknown mass is M. write the expression for the center of mass with this variable. Write the expression for the center of mass in the new position. You know that they will be in the same place.
 
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To calculate the center of mass of the canoe with Ricardo and Carmelita in it, we can use the formula:

COM = (m1x1 + m2x2) / (m1 + m2)

Where m1 and m2 are the masses of Ricardo and Carmelita respectively, and x1 and x2 are their respective distances from the center of the canoe.

Since we know Ricardo's mass (m1 = 80kg) and the distance between the seats (x1 = 3m), we can plug these values into the formula to find the center of mass of the canoe with only Ricardo in it.

COM = (80kg * 3m) / (80kg + m2)

Next, we can use the information about the canoe's movement during the seat exchange to find the new center of mass with both Ricardo and Carmelita in it.

The canoe moves 40cm (or 0.4m) relative to the submerged log, which means that the center of mass shifted by 0.4m as well.

Using the same formula as before, but now with the new center of mass (x1 = 0.4m) and the unknown mass of Carmelita (m2), we can solve for m2.

COM = (80kg * 3m + m2 * 0.4m) / (80kg + m2)

Solving for m2, we get m2 = 10kg.

Therefore, Carmelita's mass is 10kg.
 

1. What is the center of mass and why is it important?

The center of mass is the point at which the entire mass of an object can be considered to be concentrated. It is important because it helps us understand how an object will move and behave under different conditions, such as when it is in motion or when it is subject to external forces.

2. How do you calculate the center of mass with unknown mass?

To calculate the center of mass with unknown mass, we use the principle of moments. This involves finding the sum of the moments of all the individual masses in the system and dividing it by the total mass of the system. This will give us the position of the center of mass.

3. Can the center of mass be outside of the object?

Yes, the center of mass can be outside of the object. This typically occurs when the object has an irregular shape or when there are multiple objects involved. In these cases, the center of mass may be located in empty space.

4. How does the position of the center of mass affect the stability of an object?

The position of the center of mass is directly related to the stability of an object. If the center of mass is located above the base of support, the object will be stable. However, if the center of mass is located outside of the base of support, the object will be unstable and may topple over.

5. How does the center of mass change when two people are in a canoe?

The center of mass of the canoe with two people will be different than when it is just one person. This is because the combined mass of the two people will affect the overall center of mass of the system. The exact position of the new center of mass will depend on the distribution of the two people's masses within the canoe.

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