Explaining Chain Rule: vdv/dx=1/2(dv^2)/dx

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between velocity, time, and position in classical mechanics. It is explained that the derivative of velocity with respect to time can be expressed in terms of the derivative of velocity with respect to position. Additionally, the hint in a specific problem involves solving for a result by differentiating and integrating differentials, which is possible due to the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.
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vish22
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ok stupid question probably-
take v(velocity) to be a function of x and x to be a function of t(time).
then dv/dt=vdv/dx that's cool
but in the hint in problem 2.12 classical mechanics by john r taylor he equates vdv/dx and 1/2(dv^2)/dx
that is- vdv/dx=1/2(dv^2)/dx
Could someone please explain this?
 
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Just assume, v2 = y , then differentiate both sides w.r.t x, you have,
d(v2)/dx = dy/dx ...(1)
2v dv/dx = dy/dx......(2)

and then eliminate dy/dx to solve 1 and 2, and you have your result...and I think this should be moved to homework or something.
 
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thanks universal i had just got that part,also in the next step of hint he separates the differentials like so-
md(v^2)=F(x)dx
now how is it possible to integrate the lhs wrt v^2??
 
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For any function, f, the integral of df is just f (plus the "constant of integration) - that's the "Fundamental Theorem of Calculus".

[tex]\int m d(v^2)= m\int d(v^2)= mv^2+ C[/tex]
assuming that m is a does not depend on v.
 

1. What is the chain rule and why is it important in calculus?

The chain rule is a mathematical rule that helps us find the derivative of a composite function, which is a function that is made up of other functions. It is important in calculus because it allows us to find the rate of change of a more complex function by breaking it down into simpler parts.

2. How do you apply the chain rule to find vdv/dx=1/2(dv^2)/dx?

To apply the chain rule in this equation, you must first rewrite it as v(dv)/dx = (1/2)(dv^2)/dx. Then, you can use the power rule for derivatives to find that v(dv)/dx = v(dv/dx). Finally, you can substitute this into the original equation to get v(dv/dx) = (1/2)(dv^2)/dx.

3. Can you provide an example of using the chain rule to find the derivative of a composite function?

Sure, let's say we have the function f(x) = (x^2 + 3x)^3. To find the derivative of this function, we can use the chain rule. First, we identify the inner function as g(x) = x^2 + 3x and the outer function as h(x) = x^3. Then, we take the derivative of the inner function, which is g'(x) = 2x + 3. Finally, we substitute this into the chain rule formula, f'(x) = h'(g(x)) * g'(x), to get f'(x) = 3(x^2 + 3x)^2 * (2x + 3).

4. Why is it important to understand the chain rule when solving problems in physics and engineering?

In physics and engineering, many physical quantities such as velocity, acceleration, and force are often represented as composite functions. The chain rule allows us to find the derivatives of these functions, which are crucial in understanding and analyzing the behavior of these physical systems. Without the chain rule, it would be much more difficult to solve these problems and make accurate predictions.

5. Are there any common mistakes to avoid when using the chain rule?

Yes, there are a few common mistakes to avoid when using the chain rule. One is forgetting to apply the chain rule when dealing with a composite function. Another is incorrectly identifying the inner and outer functions, which can lead to an incorrect derivative. It's also important to remember to simplify your answer and check your work for any algebraic errors.

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