Challenging Thermodynamics Problem

In summary, the problem involves a cubical vessel with a small hole in one of its walls containing air at atmospheric pressure and temperature. The vessel is surrounded by a higher temperature. The goal is to find the amount of gas in moles in the vessel at a given time, using the ideal gas equation and the first law of thermodynamics. The solution involves assuming constant pressure and using integration to account for the varying rates of temperature and number of moles. This question is at a senior secondary level and it may be helpful to seek assistance in the Advanced Physics forum.
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«Challenging» Thermodynamics Problem

Homework Statement



Consider a cubical vessel of edge a, having a small hole in one of its walls. The total thermal resistance of the wall is [itex] \varphi [/itex] [itex] \mbox{At time} \ t=0 [/itex], it contains air at atmospheric pressure [itex] p_a [/itex] and temperature [itex] \theta_0 [/itex]The temperature of the surrounding is [itex] \theta_a ( > \theta_0 ) [/itex] Find the amount of gas in moles in the vessel at time t. Take [itex] C_v = \frac{5R}{2} [/itex]

Homework Equations



[tex] dQ=dW+dU [/tex]
[tex]dQ= \frac{i_{th}}{\varphi} [/tex]
[tex]
PV=nR \theta \mbox{ideal gas eqn} [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I assumed pressure to be constant throughout the problem.
[tex] P=P_a [/tex]
Initially,
[tex] i_{th} = \frac{\theta_a - \theta_0}{\varphi} [/tex]
Now since volume and pressure both are constant,
PV=const.
or,
[itex]nRd\theta + R\theta dN = 0[/itex]

[itex] \frac{d\theta}{\theta} = -\frac{dn}{n} [/itex]

Now i try to apply first law, which gives,
[tex] \frac{\theta_a - \theta}{\varphi} dt = nC_vd\theta + \theta C_v n [/tex] where [itex] \theta\ is\ temperature \ at\ time \ t[/itex]
But since these rates are also varying, i have no idea how to continue. Specially if someone could throw light on the integration part.
Thanks for any assistance.
 
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what level is this question?
 
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eaboujaoudeh said:
what level is this question?
Senior secondary
 
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Any1 got an idea?
 
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Long time...if any1 knows a tactic for this do tell :cry:
 
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Mabye you should try posting this in the Advanced Physics forum instead?
 

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