Quasar Brightness: A Case of Light-Days or Light-Years?

In summary, the video discusses the topic of quasars and their varying brightness. It explains that while some quasars do have rapid variations in brightness, this is not representative of their overall size, which is assumed to be in light-years. Claims that quasars are closer than their redshift indicates have been repeatedly refuted and are not taken seriously by mainstream scientists. The video also mentions several sources that provide evidence against these claims. When asked for more references, the expert summarizer states that if the existing evidence is not enough, they cannot provide further help.
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When Astrophysicists detected Quasars, they thought that they could not be more than a few light-days across as they were changing their brightness in just a few days. If we assume that they are light-years long, then the change in brightness from the other side would be observed year later, but we see the entire object's brightness change in just a few days.

However, can't it be the case that the closer end changed its brightness so much that it changed our measurements of the entire object's brightness while the change was still progressing through it at the farther end?
 
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According to any number of sources, most quasars vary in brightness over a span of several weeks or a month. While some do vary in brightness over a matter of days, it is not assumed, nor is there any evidence suggesting such rapid variations are representative of an object that spans light years in size. The video confirms these simple facts. Claims that quasars are much closer than their redshift indicates have been repeatedly rebutted over the years and are not seriously entertained by mainstream scientists.
 
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Chronos said:
Claims that quasars are much closer than their redshift indicates have been repeatedly rebutted over the years and are not seriously entertained by mainstream scientists.

Can you provide any examples of, or pointers to, rebuttals to the claims that quasars are much closer than their redshift indicates?
 
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OK, I'll bite, how about http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0506366; Critical Examinations of QSO Redshift Periodicities and Associations with Galaxies in Sloan Digital Sky Survey Data, http://arxiv.org/abs/0807.2641; Evidence against non-cosmological redshifts of QSOs in SDSS data, http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#QZ,
 
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However, can't it be the case that the closer end changed its brightness so much that it changed our measurements of the entire object's brightness while the change was still progressing through it at the farther end?
It doesn't change the conclusion: the change in brightness happens in a small region. If the whole object suddenly appears twice as bright as before, then a small region has to emit as much light as the whole object before.
 
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then a small region has to emit as much light as the whole object before.
Which is impossible?
 
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Which is possible. But that is the whole point: you can use the sudden luminosity changes to estimate the size of the region where the light (at least most of it) comes from.
 
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Chrono said:
According to any number of sources, most quasars vary in brightness over a span of several weeks or a month. While some do vary in brightness over a matter of days, it is not assumed, nor is there any evidence suggesting such rapid variations are representative of an object that spans light years in size. The video confirms these simple facts. Claims that quasars are much closer than their redshift indicates have been repeatedly rebutted over the years and are not seriously entertained by mainstream scientists.
Would you please share some evidence based reference that validates you statement...!
 
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If you fail to comprehend the evidence already presented, you are beyond my help.
 

1. What is luminosity?

Luminosity refers to the total amount of energy emitted by a star or other celestial object. It is often used to describe the brightness or intensity of a star.

2. How does luminosity change in days?

Luminosity can change in days due to various factors such as stellar activity, eclipsing binary systems, or changes in the star's internal structure. These changes can cause fluctuations in the amount of energy emitted by the star, resulting in changes in its luminosity.

3. Can luminosity change suddenly?

Yes, in certain cases, luminosity can change suddenly. For example, a supernova explosion can cause a star's luminosity to increase dramatically in a short period of time. Other factors such as stellar flares or changes in a star's fusion rate can also cause sudden changes in luminosity.

4. How do scientists measure changes in luminosity?

Scientists use a variety of techniques and instruments to measure changes in luminosity. One common method is to use photometric measurements, which involve measuring the amount of light emitted by a star at different wavelengths. Other methods include spectroscopy and interferometry.

5. Why is it important to study changes in luminosity?

Studying changes in luminosity can provide valuable insights into the behavior and evolution of stars. It can also help scientists understand the underlying physical processes that drive these changes. Additionally, changes in luminosity can have significant impacts on the surrounding environment, such as affecting the habitability of planets orbiting the star.

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