That's pretty paradoxical bunch of statements...From my experience, I know qi is a real force. I have an extensive scientific background
Doesn't a "demo" usually mean a pre-planned demonstration, in which there are no losers or winners?You can see demos on YouTube that show people using force (external forms like karate) against experienced practitioners - they always lose.
The only thing we care about is if you can do a hadouken or not.I have practiced qigong for about 18 years. From my experience, I know qi is a real force. I have an extensive scientific background, so it was a bit of a stretch at first to let go and experiment with it. Analysis doesn't help with the feeling of it, it happens best when you relax and do the forms/exercises automatically. Qi doesn't flow through a tense muscle. You can see demos on YouTube that show people using force (external forms like karate) against experienced practitioners - they always lose.
I would gravitate towards the most logical explanation, and for me that would rule out the supernatural.
Hypoxia may be incorrect but of course that doesn't mean that by default an unexplainable, unquantifiable and supernatural force was therefore involved. It just means we might not have the knowledge to explain it satisfactorily yet.
Yes, it is a non-imaginary, obvious feeling.rplatter said:Personally I believe the exercises to provoke something (Psychosomatic or not), mainly because of the similarity between the descriptions of various practitioners. I don't know what it is, but I do believe there is something there that bears investigation.
I heard that as well. One day I was asked to test a person's chi, and he got the opportunity to test his backside. From that point on, they told me my "chi is very strong."When I used to do karate, we had to channel our Qi to stand firmer.
It does strangely work - the firmer bit. If you tense your muscles to stand firm, you can easily be knocked over. However, if you imagine your body flowing through the floor - as if you were fixed with your surroundings - it's very hard to move you, bit like a tree
Also, Qi is a very handy Scrabble word
I don't understand your point here. Are you saying that you beat someone who was supposed to have a strong chi?I heard that as well. One day I was asked to test a person's chi, and he got the opportunity to test his backside. From that point on, they told me my "chi is very strong."
So then you are drawing a conclusion based on what?I didn't have the heart to tell them they were very guillible, and stopped taking Aikido shortly thereafter.
to me that looks like a push punch,doesnt looks like it would hurt much,maybe take you off balance,this is a punch to me-I think this describes Bruce Lee's famous one inch punch.
Relevant, and in my opinion, interesting essay about the martial arts.
That's great, Galteeth. It should be required reading for all students of martial arts...and I bet it applies to a lot of other fields, as well....epistemic viciousness is the possession of vices that make one bad at acquiring true beliefs...
There is also the issue of coordinated muscular activity versus using only large muscle groups... the thing is, while you make good points, they are not the limits of the claims made by those who believe in "Qi".Qi, Ki, or Chi to me is simply a mastery of motion in your own body. Nothing mystical about it, there are a lot of people who think its magic and like to claim hocus pocus, but the actual examples of it's use (Throwing a powerful strike, or deflecting a force) simply demonstrate your body exerting as much force as you are capable of making it do so.
So here's a question for you, do you think the average person when trying to exert as much force as they can through some means, is actually exerting as much force as their body is capable of producing? I don't think so.
Adrenaline is a perfect example of our body reacting in a way that enhances it's own physical prowess. Maybe Qi, Ki, or Chi practices actually just give the body a dose of epinephrine, maybe they somehow encourage your body to be more mechanically sound in its motion. Hard to say, but I do know there is SOMETHING that makes a man who got caught in a rockslide while rock climbing bench press a 500kg rock off of him.
According to studies published last year in International Journal of Clinical Practice and in Nov 2009 in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine, "reiki is not an effective treatment for any condition." - http://www.livescience.com/health/091208-alternative-medicine.html" [Broken]Reiki is a good example of Ki as magic, in the minds of some.
Qi isn't a force, it is the ancient traditional Chinese medicine equivalent of the abstract modern notion of energy. Just as in western Hegellian dialectics where nature is said to comprised of two opposing energies, in TCM Qi is divided into two types yin-qi and yang-qi that interact with each other.In Chinese philosophy they talk of a force called Chi. It's an electrical current that runs through your body,everything around you, and Earth.
I'm thinking maybe they weren't wrong. There is an electrical current that runs through you. It's the currents of your nervouce system. his may be what they were talking about.
Also there is a current that runs through your body. Just like theres 14 pounds of air per sqaure ince of your body there's lots ofelectrcity running through us. We're used to it so we don't feel anything. I'm wondering could this be CHi also.
Yes, I agree. But firstly, you need have the physical strength, and then the mental strength to employ it to do what you claimed - very believable.qi doesn't exist. I'm currently doing bjj and i'll be honest. It's all mental strength. When you have mental strength, you can do anything. At one point, i was at the top of my jiu jitsu game and i was taking down people who had 50lb+ advantage and all i did was believe in myself. Now I lost that "will" and can't do it again.