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Children fighting

  1. Dec 25, 2006 #1
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  3. Dec 25, 2006 #2

    ranger

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    haha, you said "common practice for americans". What ever gave you that idea? You think we're animals? Those are just immature jackasses. We find them in every culture, in every part of the world. And we wonder how our kids turn out screwed...
     
  4. Dec 25, 2006 #3
    I bet this far more common place in most other countries.
     
  5. Dec 26, 2006 #4

    Ivan Seeking

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    With three-hundred-million people here, there are all kinds.
     
  6. Dec 26, 2006 #5

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    No, this is not common, this is total crap put on by low life, low intelligence, sub humans.

    You will not see this type of behaviour in normal neighborhoods. Nor is this type of behaviour condoned in the low income areas either.
     
  7. Dec 26, 2006 #6
    I do take offense with this kind of statements.
    Your suggestion that there are humans and sub-humans and higher life and lower life humans is the core of all discrimination in human culture.

    Humans come in all varieties but they are still all humans.
    To call some human beings sub-human is extremely offensive to me.
     
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  8. Dec 26, 2006 #7

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    You sound very ambitious. :wink:
     
  9. Dec 26, 2006 #8
    What did you think of the dichotomy between "normal" and "low-income" neighborhoods?
     
  10. Dec 26, 2006 #9
    Well to me that is simply not a dichotomy. :smile:
    Ánd in all fairness Evo's statement did not state that it is a dichotomy either.
     
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  11. Dec 26, 2006 #10
    I think you're all just animals, but then I tend to consider the entire human species all just animals, that people are surprised when we are barely more than apes, and some of us behave the way we do is a surprise to me :smile:
     
  12. Dec 26, 2006 #11

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    Are certain animals, such as Schroedinger's animals, better than the rest? :biggrin:
     
  13. Dec 26, 2006 #12
    Funny, she used the word "either" in exactly the same way you did.

    As for children fighting, I note the following.
    1. There is no scarcity of martial arts academies in America which cater primarily to children.
    2. We don't have child armies in America as they do in some countries.
     
  14. Dec 26, 2006 #13

    Evo

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    Sorry you're offended, but not all humans act humanely. I do consider actions by some humans as sub-human. You don't need to agree with me. But I'm right. :biggrin:
     
  15. Dec 26, 2006 #14

    Chi Meson

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    I just wanted to pound the head of that "father" with a baseball bat.

    Hmm.

    I guess I'm still working on the Irony prize.
     
  16. Dec 26, 2006 #15

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    And then people wonder why some kids have no chance to break free of poverty when they have parents like that. How will they ever learn social skills needed to be successful with such low lifes for parents? Those kids should be taken away and those parents thrown behind bars for child abuse...surely the punishment for pitting your kids in fights with one another like that should be at least as harsh as if you were fighting dogs or cocks. :mad:
     
  17. Dec 26, 2006 #16

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    I find the video very sad. Unfortunately violence is all too common in some American neighborhoods and in some families (domestic abuse).

    1. Most martial arts academies do not teach the brawling observed in the video. Rather, they teach self-discpline and restraint, and respect for other people. However, I have seen some gung-ho types whose methods would seem to inspire that kind of behavior.

    2. While the US doesn't have child armies, it does have gangs, and kids carry guns, and kids kill other kids, sometimes as initiation into a gang. I think most people outside of such areas try to avoid thinking about it.

    I just returned from Houston and while I was there a young man (15-17) was found murdered in the parking lot of an apartment complex. Police are asking for any information as to the identity of the young man and of those who might have shot him.

    When I lived in Houston 30+ years ago, IIRC there were about 10 homicides/day. It's way down now - but violence is still a problem.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_Texas#Crime

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hurricane/4277375.html

    Interesting perspective - VIOLENCE & HISTORY
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,838226,00.html
     
  18. Dec 26, 2006 #17
    Probably not I haven't been neutered :smile:
     
  19. Dec 26, 2006 #18
    The OP's question was limited to America. Your comparison does not convince me that such limitation is valid.
     
  20. Dec 26, 2006 #19
    The video brought me to mind of a documentary I had seen on TV about some country, though now I cannot recall which. It showed a couple of kids about 3 or 4 years old, the age also I don't recall. I think their left arms were bound to each other and this also is dim in my mind. The part I do remember vividly is that they were hitting each other with their fists. During this ceremony parents looked on as both children were punching and crying. Does anyone here know what I am talking about? I hate to say which country I think it was for fear of insulting the innocent, but I think it was in Asia.
     
  21. Dec 26, 2006 #20
    It is probably as common as it is for the French to randomly burn cars left in the street.

    You can get hard data on the French car flambe'. It is overwhelmingly much more common there than it is anywhere else. It is also largely restricted to certain segments of the population.

    The US is a great deal larger than any given European country. It is not nearly as homogeneous as any European country. While the Europeans celebrate their own diversity (which includes the French cars, Italian politics, continental skinheads, and a lot of other nastiness), the US has plenty of diversity of it's own, a fact the Europeans never seem to understand.

    You just saw a part of that.
     
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