# Circular motion

1. Dec 5, 2006

### robgazza

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

to a good approximation, the moon can be considered to be travelling in a circle centred at the earth and the earth can be considered to be travelling in a circle centred at the sun. determine the magnitude of the moons acceleration relative to the sun
a)when the moon is between the earth and the sun
b)when the earth is between the moon and sun

2. Relevant equations

3. The attempt at a solution

hello & greetings all

i am very stuck in the problem above

may i ask, to find the required answer do i need to use the equation -gmM/r^2 and work out the effective gravitational pull or is it circular motion?

i am very stuck and any help would be muchly appreciated :(

2. Dec 5, 2006

### OlderDan

Gravity is the force producing the accelerations, but to find their individual magnitudes you just need the orbital periods and orbit radii.

3. Dec 5, 2006

### robgazza

so for example, a) i would need to work out the pull from the sun and subtract the pull from the earth to give its velocity?

4. Dec 5, 2006

### OlderDan

Based on the information given in the problem, I assume you are studying centripetal motion and are expected to use that in your calculations. The velocities can be determined from the orbital periods and radii, and that can be related to the acceleration. What is the connection between velocity and acceleration for circular motion?

Another approach to the problem would be to calculate the forces from the universal gravition law and use Newton's second law to find the acceleration. This might even be easier to do than using centripetal motion considerations, but I doubt that is what the problem intended.

5. Dec 5, 2006

### robgazza

im not sure, calculate the forces from the universal graviton law and use Newton's second law to find the acceleration is correct, how would i do this?

6. Dec 6, 2006

### OlderDan

You would look up the distance from the earth to the moon and from the sun to earth and figure out how far the moon is from the sun at the two locations. Then use the F = GMm/r² you quoted in your orignal post to find the net force by appropriately combining the two forces acting on the moon. Once you have the net force (magnitude and direction) calculate the acceleration from Newton 2.

7. Dec 17, 2006

### Sanket R Berde

What Is Centripetal Force? and its uses.

8. Dec 17, 2006

### cristo

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