Circular Movement: Exploring Particle Motion

In summary, the conversation discusses the motion of a particle represented by the equations X=Acos(t)exp(-at) and Y=Asin(t)exp(-at), which moves in a spiral pattern around the origin with decreasing radius. The question is raised whether this description is sufficient to fully describe the particle's motion, and if there is any further information that can be learned. The conversation then explores the concept of a logarithmic spiral and whether it accurately describes the particle's movement. Finally, the possibility of deriving a formula for the spiral from the given equations is mentioned.
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peripatein
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Hello,

If the position of a particle w.r.t time is given as X=Acos(t)exp(-at), and Y=Asin(t)exp(-at), then it is pretty clear that the particle is moving in concentric circles around the origin with decreasing radius. Is anything else ought to be stated in order to describe the motion of the particle? I mean, does it suffice, when asked to describe the motion of this particle, to simply state that its motion would be as I delineated above? In other words, what more can one learn, and say, about the particle's type of movement?

Also, I have found that dx/dy = [y+a√(A^2exp(-2at) - y^2)] / [ay - √(A^2exp(-2at) - y^2)]. Is that correct and, if so, can it be further simplified?
 
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Not concentric circles really - can you think of a better word?
 
  • #3
Spiral?
 
  • #4
What kind of spiral?
 
  • #5
Converging to the origin?
 
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Logarithmic spiral, then? Would that suffice as an answer, or ought it to be shown mathematically, explicitly via the equations?
 
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peripatein said:
Logarithmic spiral, then? Would that suffice as an answer, or ought it to be shown mathematically, explicitly via the equations?

Under the drawing in Mathworlds, there's a formula given.
Can you derive it (or something very similar) from your equation?
 
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Thanks! :-)
 

1. What is circular movement?

Circular movement is a type of motion in which an object follows a circular path around a central point or axis. This means that the object's distance from the center remains constant while its direction continuously changes.

2. What causes circular movement?

Circular movement is caused by the presence of a centripetal force, which pulls an object towards the center of the circular path. This force is necessary to keep the object moving in a circular motion and prevent it from moving in a straight line.

3. How is circular movement different from linear movement?

Circular movement is different from linear movement in several ways. Firstly, circular motion involves a change in direction, while linear motion involves a change in position. Additionally, circular motion requires a centripetal force, while linear motion does not. Finally, in circular motion, the object's distance from the center remains constant, while in linear motion, the object's distance from the starting point continuously increases or decreases.

4. What is the relationship between speed and radius in circular movement?

There is an inverse relationship between speed and radius in circular movement. This means that as the radius of the circular path increases, the speed of the object decreases, and vice versa. This relationship is described by the equation v = rω, where v is the object's linear speed, r is the radius, and ω is the angular velocity.

5. How does circular movement affect particles?

Circular movement can affect particles in various ways, depending on the type of circular motion. In uniform circular motion, particles move at a constant speed, which creates a constant centripetal force that keeps the particles in circular motion. In non-uniform circular motion, particles have varying speeds, which results in a changing centripetal force and causes the particles to move in elliptical paths. In both cases, circular movement can be used to study the behavior of particles and their interactions with forces.

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