CNN: It's McCain and Palin

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I don't know too much about her. I watched some youtube video interviews of her and she seems pretty decent. Good talker and educated. Is this an oil play as she could talk about drilling in Alaska? Also a women play? Maybe to steal some hillary supporters?

How will the VP debate turn out? I feel like Biden will bully her?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/index.html
 
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McCain said to choose Alaska gov as running mate
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_veepstakes [Broken]

DENVER - John McCain tapped little-known Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate, two senior campaign officials told The Associated Press on Friday. A formal announcement was expected within a few hours at a campaign rally in swing-state Ohio.

Palin, 44, is a self-styled hockey mom and political reformer who has been governor of her state less than two years. Palin's selection was a stunning surprise, as McCain passed over many other better known prospects, some of whom had been the subject of intense speculation for weeks or months.

At 44, she is a generation younger that Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is Barack Obama's running mate on the Democratic ticket.
Well, I had heard that he was considering a woman, and I definitely think that it is a deliberate attempt to attract the female voters who were disgruntled over Hillary Clinton's loss to Obama. Very shrewed move. Makes for an interesting race.

I looked at the list of female governors - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_state_governors_in_the_United_States - and missed her. She's at the bottom of the list since she's the most recently elected.

I don't think it is so much about ANWR, but that will certainly be an issue, as will drilling off-shore. I'm sure McCain and the Republicans will push the decision back to the individual states, since some state governments tend to be more pro-development (tax revenue) rather than be concerned about pollution and environment degradation.

It's also a good way to develop resources for campaign contributions.
 
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I must say that the VP choices for both candidates were certainly quite surprising.
 
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I don't know too much about her. I watched some youtube video interviews of her and she seems pretty decent. Good talker and educated. Is this an oil play as she could talk about drilling in Alaska? Also a women play? Maybe to steal some hillary supporters?

How will the VP debate turn out? I feel like Biden will bully her?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/mccain.vp/index.html

Apparently she is a maverick. I wouldn't count on Biden bullying her necessarily, though Biden plays more to classical stereo types of what VP's and Presidents look like. On the other hand I have doubts that McCain will really pick up Hilary votes because of the pick.

My opinion is that I think we should at least sleep better knowing that Mitt Romney has no prayer of ever becoming president.
 
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I must admit though the prospect (in the event that McCain cannot serve out his term) that the country would be run by an ex-beauty queen makes for interesting plot development material.
 
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I must admit though the prospect (in the event that McCain cannot serve out his term) that the country would be run by an ex-beauty queen makes for interesting plot development material.

Hey, if the US goes down, I want to go down lookin gooooood :biggrin:
 
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Hey, if the US goes down, I want to go down lookin gooooood :biggrin:

So what happens now to the ads about Obama being a rock star but is he ready to lead, when McCain chooses an ex-beauty queen, with limited experience running a state as a governor? Does he really value this ready to lead thing seriously if he shows such little regard for it in his own choices?
 
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McCain has made much of Obama's inexperience - now he's got someone younger with less experience on the ticket. Is he going to get a free pass on that just because of her gender? For all his self-proclaimed foreign policy experience, McCain has never seemed to be able to make accurate distinctions between Shiites and Sunnis, between Iraqi insurgents and al Qaeda, and even between the Iranians and al Qaeda. That's pretty scary coming from somebody who wants to continue current Middle East policies.

Contrasts between Biden and Palin should throw the foreign-policy experiences of these two tickets in high relief.
 
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Positive:

She will steal a number of Hillary supporters.

Negative:

No experience. That will make it hard for McCain to attack Obama on that issue.

Conclusion:

Ok, but not brilliant.
 
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Given such low expectations about Sarah Palin, then she is sure to exceed expectations.
 
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My first thought was he's old enough to be her father. Why didn't he pick Sen Kay Bailey Huchinson instead?
 
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Could it be that Mcain was influenced by a late night episode on the E! channel of Saturday Night Live?
 

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Apparently she is a maverick. I wouldn't count on Biden bullying her necessarily, though Biden plays more to classical stereo types of what VP's and Presidents look like. On the other hand I have doubts that McCain will really pick up Hilary votes because of the pick.

My opinion is that I think we should at least sleep better knowing that Mitt Romney has no prayer of ever becoming president.

Definitely good that he didn't pick up Romney! Romney was probably about the only possible VP pick from either party that could have swayed my opinion. In spite of that, I kind of expected Romney to be the pick simply because he could help in three battleground states: Michigan, Colorado, and Nevada.

Palin is a good pick for a lot of reasons. As far as picking up disgruntled Hillary supporters, she'll pick all the ones that either don't take a close enough look to realize she's pro-life or the ones that really don't consider abortion a major issue.

It's a pick surprising enough that it steals a little thunder from the Democratic Convention.
 
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Palin is a good pick for a lot of reasons. As far as picking up disgruntled Hillary supporters, she'll pick all the ones that either don't take a close enough look to realize she's pro-life or the ones that really don't consider abortion a major issue.
Palin might help McCain with some of the conservatives that are disenchanted with him. The fact that she carried a Down syndrome baby to term instead of opting for an abortion is a pretty strong statement to the pro-lifers.
 
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Definitely good that he didn't pick up Romney! Romney was probably about the only possible VP pick from either party that could have swayed my opinion. In spite of that, I kind of expected Romney to be the pick simply because he could help in three battleground states: Michigan, Colorado, and Nevada.
McCain doesn't trust Romney one bit - that much was clear from the Primaries. On not picking Romney, I was correct in calling this last week.

Palin is a good pick for a lot of reasons. As far as picking up disgruntled Hillary supporters, she'll pick all the ones that either don't take a close enough look to realize she's pro-life or the ones that really don't consider abortion a major issue.
There's no way they won't realize she is pro-life, I think that will definitely. On picking Palin, I guessed, about 3 months ago, that she wouldn't be interested, but I was wrong.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1745302&post1745301

Palin is is more than just devoutly pro-life. Her decision to have a fifth baby at age 44 - after an early diagnosis revealed that the child would have Down Syndrome - definitely has the potential to be very polarizing.

http://www.adn.com/626/story/382864.html [Broken]
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/382560.html [Broken]
 
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I must admit though the prospect (in the event that McCain cannot serve out his term) that the country would be run by an ex-beauty queen makes for interesting plot development material.
Hard to not notice a trend with ex-beauty queens.
 
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To complement their perceived weaknesses, both candidates seem to have picked an opposite within their own party. On the Democratic side, I think the VP would be effective to temper and influence the president. On the Republican side, I don't.
 
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McCain has made much of Obama's inexperience - now he's got someone younger with less experience on the ticket.

Well, I think there are at least two relevant differences - it's the #2 spot, not the #1 spot, and it's executive experience for an executive office.
 
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It's a pick surprising enough that it steals a little thunder from the Democratic Convention.

That's today's headlines. A rather dubious reason once it's yesterday's news.

Sadly that's the business as usual of the current Bush-Cheney-Rove administration and their reliance on appearance over substance, while they ply their agenda of enriching the few and denying the endemic problems of the rest of those they are nominally supposed to represent as well.
 
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McCain doesn't trust Romney one bit -

That's because he knows Romney. I'd say not picking Romney shows that he is capable of making good decisions. There's enough insincerity in Washington without having to import his brand of it.

There's no way they won't realize she is pro-life, ...

And she is a member of the NRA. Beauty queen, NRA, pro-life - a real trifecta. I suspect the Hilary crowd will not find enough to like when they get in the booth.

I'd say her choice is more to assuage the concerns of the far right on the moral agenda and to energize their participation as well as bolster his own appearance of sincerely in wanting to change things in Washington.
 
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In Palin's defense, she's no Dan Quayle.

I reckon with 5 kids, she knows how to spell.
 
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My first thought was he's old enough to be her father. Why didn't he pick Sen Kay Bailey Huchinson instead?
See my comment - https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1850422&postcount=117

Interesting that he didn't pick Lisa Murkowski, who is the daughter of the former incumbent governor Frank Murkowski, who was beaten by Sarah Palin in 2006 gubernatorial election.

Apparently his appointment of his daughter as Alaska's junior US senator (in 2002) did not go over too well in Alaska.
 
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Definitely good that he didn't pick up Romney! Romney was probably about the only possible VP pick from either party that could have swayed my opinion. .

My opinion is that I think we should at least sleep better knowing that Mitt Romney has no prayer of ever becoming president.

whats wrong with Romney? i think that he would have been a better choice for mccain. or maybe not, just because hes mormon
 
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whats wrong with Romney? i think that he would have been a better choice for mccain. or maybe not, just because hes mormon

Answered your own question.
 

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