CO2 Emissions: China vs US: Casus Belli?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the potential for a "climate crisis" and the role of China in emissions. The Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency has reported that China surpassed the US in CO2 emissions in 2006, due to increased coal consumption and cement production. This has caused pressure for China to join efforts to solve the climate crisis, but some argue that the crisis is not real and that there is a hidden agenda for control. The conversation also touches on the idea that humanity is driven by fear and herd instinct, leading to patterns of disaster and war.
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It has all the potential, the eve of the emission war:

http://english.people.com.cn/200706/22/eng20070622_386680.html

...the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency, said China overtook the US in emissions of CO2 by 8 percent in 2006. While China was 2 percent below the US in 2005, coal consumption and increased cement production had caused the numbers to rise rapidly.

And sure enough:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/06/21/eagore21.xml

...In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph, Mr Gore said: "I think that when China is recognised as the largest emitter ...

it will produce a subtle but significant change in the pressure China feels from the rest of the world to be part of a solution to this crisis.

"But in order to apply that moral pressure, the United States has to join the world's efforts to solve the crisis. That is why I am spending so much time spending every effort to reach a political critical mass to solve the climate crisis."

There is no climate crisis, only a perception thereof. Kind of Iraqi WMD's but from the first link:

China's annual per capita figure is 3.66 tons, while for the Dutch it is 11.4 tons, about three times higher. China's emissions are just at survival levels...

...On the one hand you increase the production in China, and the other hand you criticize China on the emission reduction issue, so it is unfair...

I'm afraid that Andre's law of conservation of concern is in action here.

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule it, H.L. Mencken
 
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Andre, I don't understand what you're trying to discuss in this thread.
 
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Okay, I try to explain.

First of all http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=casus%20belli

Together with that linked thread I intended to point out that millenia of culture and centuries of objective science, humanity does not begin attempting to overcome primitive fear and herd instinct. And it's the same pattern to disaster, the eve's of all wars, that we see over and over again: create fear, exploit the enemy image and be the great victorious hero, ruling the world.

So predictable. Too sad for words.
 
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1. What are CO2 emissions and why are they important to compare between China and the US?

CO2 emissions refer to the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, primarily from burning fossil fuels like coal, oil, and gas. These emissions are important to compare between China and the US because both countries are major contributors to global emissions and play a significant role in addressing climate change.

2. Which country has higher CO2 emissions, China or the US?

Currently, China has the highest CO2 emissions in the world, emitting around 10.06 gigatons of CO2 in 2019. The US follows closely behind, emitting around 5.41 gigatons of CO2 in the same year.

3. What is the casus belli for CO2 emissions between China and the US?

The casus belli, or reason for conflict, between China and the US regarding CO2 emissions is primarily due to their differing levels of responsibility and impact on global emissions. China argues that as a developing country, they should not be held to the same emissions standards as developed countries like the US. Meanwhile, the US argues that China's rapid economic growth has led to a significant increase in emissions and must take action to reduce them.

4. How do China and the US compare in terms of their efforts to reduce CO2 emissions?

China and the US have both made efforts to reduce their CO2 emissions, but the scale and effectiveness of these efforts differ. China has implemented policies such as investing in renewable energy and implementing a national carbon trading market. However, their emissions continue to rise. The US has also implemented policies such as the Clean Power Plan and the Paris Agreement, but these have been met with challenges and rollbacks under the current administration.

5. How do CO2 emissions between China and the US impact global climate change?

The high levels of CO2 emissions from both China and the US contribute to global climate change, which has numerous consequences such as rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and loss of biodiversity. It is crucial for both countries to work towards reducing their emissions to mitigate the effects of climate change and protect the planet for future generations.

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