Combinatorics Challenge: Finding Equal Age Sums with 10 People in a Room

In summary, the conversation revolves around a math problem that involves finding two groups of people with the same sum of ages. There are 10 people in a room, all under the age of 60, and the author believes there are a total of 1023 possible groups with 591 possible values. It is stated that there is a thread already discussing this question and a solution is proposed using the pigeonhole principle. The author also clarifies that a group must consist of at least one person.
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I rarely care enough about one problem to ask for help, but there are a million problems that are similar to this one and I don't really understand any of them.

The problem I'm looking at reads:

In a room there are 10 people, none of whom are older than 60 (ages are considered as whole numbers only) but each of whom is at least 1 year old. Prove that one can always find two groups of people (with no common person) the sum of whose ages is the same.

The author failed to define "group" (which makes me even more confused), but I would assume that a group consists of at least one person.

I observe that there is a possibility of (2^10)-1 sums, each of which add up to between 10 and 600. I also believe that there are fewer ways to add up to 10 or 600 and that there are a lot of ways to add to 300.

If anyone can help me out in any way at all, I'd be appreciative.
 
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hahha there's already a thread on that exact same question. Sorry i Don't have the link...use the search option for combinatorics.
 
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Must be in my class!
 
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hmm, interesting question :smile:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=130586

Basically, we have 1023 groups (or possible sums) and only 591 possible values for the groups (sums), so by the pigeonhole principle there are two groups with the same value. If the groups have a common person(s) just remove that person(s) from the group (the sum of the ages will still be the same).
 
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