# Composite Derivative

1. Sep 24, 2007

### kuahji

Find the value of (f o g)' at the given value of x.

f(u)=u^5+1, u=g(x)=sqrt x, x = 1

So I found the derivate of f(u) & of u.
f'(u)= 5u^4 & u'= 1/(2sqrt x)

Then I plugged 1 in for x in u' & got 1/2. What I don't understand is why I can't just then plug 1/2 in for u & solve.

Another example
f(u)= 2u/(u^2+1), u=g(x)= 10x^2+x+1, x=0

Here I did the same, found the derivative of f'(u) & u'.
f'(u) = -2u^2+2/(u^2+1)^2 & u'=20x+1

Then I plugged in zero for u' & got 1. If you then plug 1 into f'(u), you get 0. Which matches the answer in the back of the book, but the first one does not using the same technique. Somewhere I think my knowledge of the concept is incomplete. Any help would be welcome.

2. Sep 24, 2007

### HallsofIvy

Staff Emeritus
Yes, when x= 1, u'= 1/2. One obvious reason why you can't "plug 1/2 in for u & solve" is that u IS not 1/2! When x= 1, u= sqrt(1)= 1. It is u' that is 1/2. By the chain rule, (fo g)'= df/du du/dx= 5(1)^4 (1/2= 5/2.

Yes, what you got for the second problem, f'(1)= 0 is correct. The problem with the first may have been distinguishing between u and u'. When x= 1, u= 1 and u'= 1/2. Use them in the correct places.

3. Sep 24, 2007

### kuahji

That makes sense, thanks for the assistance.