Calculating Spring Compression for Stone Sliding Down Hill

In summary, a 15.0kg stone slides down a snow-covered hill with a speed of 12.0m/s, travels 100m on a horizontal surface with friction, and then runs into a spring. With a force constant of 2.30N/m, the stone compresses the spring by 20.4m. The relevant equations used were f=ma, Ke=.5mv^2, .5kx^2, and Fr=umg. A rounding error and incorrect sign were identified and corrected in the solution process.
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Homework Statement



A 15.0kg stone slides down a snow-covered hill, leaving point A with a speed of 12.0m/s . There is no friction on the hill between points A and B, but there is friction on the level ground at the bottom of the hill, between B and the wall. After entering the rough horizontal region, the stone travels 100 m and then runs into a very long, light spring with force constant 2.30N/m . The coefficients of kinetic and static friction between the stone and the horizontal ground are 0.20 and 0.80, respectively.

How far will the stone compress the spring?


Other relevant information:

Height of A = 20m
Distance between A and B (horizontal): 15m

Homework Equations



f=ma
Ke=.5mv^2
.5kx^2
Fr=umg

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the velocity at point b = 23.2 m/s or a KE of 4036.8 J. I then subtracted work done by friction and set it all equal to the spring compression equation:

.5*15*23.2^2-umg(100+x)=.5(2.3)x^2
4036.8-2943+29.43x-1.15x^2
Quad eq: x=46.2m

However, this is off by quite a distance. Any help on this? Thanks in advance!
 
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s.dyseman said:

Homework Statement



A 15.0kg stone slides down a snow-covered hill, leaving point A with a speed of 12.0m/s . There is no friction on the hill between points A and B, but there is friction on the level ground at the bottom of the hill, between B and the wall. After entering the rough horizontal region, the stone travels 100 m and then runs into a very long, light spring with force constant 2.30N/m . The coefficients of kinetic and static friction between the stone and the horizontal ground are 0.20 and 0.80, respectively.

How far will the stone compress the spring?


Other relevant information:

Height of A = 20m
Distance between A and B (horizontal): 15m

Homework Equations



f=ma
Ke=.5mv^2
.5kx^2
Fr=umg

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the velocity at point b = 23.2 m/s or a KE of 4036.8 J. I then subtracted work done by friction and set it all equal to the spring compression equation:

.5*15*23.2^2-umg(100+x)=.5(2.3)x^2
That's generally the right approach. So you're doing well. :approve: But you do have a problem with rounding errors or something. The 4036.8 J figure is a little off. Make sure to keep plenty of significant figures in the intermediate steps (and/or keep everything in variable form until the final step).

4036.8-2943+29.43x-1.15x^2
Quad eq: x=46.2m
After fixing the rounding errors, check your setup prior to the quadratic formula. See the text in red above. Are you sure that's the right sign?
 
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Thank you very much, I found the answer at 20.4 m! You were a big help. The incorrect sign was a glaring error, how did I miss that?
 

What is compression of spring?

Compression of spring refers to the reduction in length or volume of a spring when a force is applied to it. This force can be either through direct compression or by pulling on the ends of the spring.

What factors affect the compression of a spring?

The compression of a spring is affected by several factors including the material and thickness of the spring, the amount of force applied, and the initial length and shape of the spring.

How does the force applied affect the compression of a spring?

The greater the force applied to a spring, the more it will compress. This is because the force causes the atoms in the spring to move closer together, resulting in a decrease in length or volume.

What is the relationship between the compression and extension of a spring?

The compression and extension of a spring are directly proportional to each other. This means that as one increases, the other will also increase in a linear manner.

What are some real-life applications of spring compression?

Spring compression is used in many everyday objects, such as mattress springs, car suspension systems, and pogo sticks. It is also used in industrial settings, for example, in shock absorbers and mechanical scales.

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