Concentrated Heat --> Efficiencies in Energy Production, How?

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The discussion explores the potential for concentrated heat to enhance efficiency in energy production, particularly in the context of solar energy applications. Participants consider various scenarios, including the implications for photovoltaic collectors and materials research under high-energy density conditions.

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  • Some participants propose that concentrated heat might enable more efficient operation of photovoltaic collectors or facilitate sustainable superconduction conditions.
  • Others argue that current solar panels are designed for normal conditions and may not perform well under concentrated radiation, suggesting a need for research into materials that can withstand higher energy densities.
  • A participant questions whether the efficiency losses due to heating are merely a result of current design choices, proposing that panels could be optimized for higher temperatures.
  • Another participant notes that increasing the area of the collector does not inherently improve efficiency, as photovoltaic materials may suffer from reduced band gap at higher temperatures.

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Participants express differing views on the impact of concentrated heat on solar panel efficiency, with no consensus reached regarding the potential benefits or drawbacks of such approaches.

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Participants highlight limitations in current solar panel designs and the need for further exploration of materials that could operate efficiently under concentrated heat, but specific assumptions and conditions remain unresolved.

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In what scenarios might concentrated heat (high heat or energy per unit area or per unit volume) increase efficiency in energy production? Maybe it allows for useful sustainable superconduction conditions, or just for the operation of a high-fidelity photovoltaic collector that costs a lot to manufacture per square meter?
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
Sorry to be blunt, but the reason I didn't respond is that the question is both vague and looks suspiciously like gibberish/technobabble. Looks like there are extra technical sounding words tossed in for no reason. Perhaps if you rephrase it would help...?
 
No problem, thanks for mentioning it--

We design solar panels to operate most efficiently under the conditions they usually encounter, which is to say, normal conditions on Earth's surface, which don't include heavily concentrated radiation. But say you're using large mirrors to concentrate a lot of radiation into a small area, where you'll then try to harvest it via a solar panel. Might this open doors in terms of design and materials? And if a project like that is on the table, mightn't it push some of our materials research in a different direction, focusing on materials that are efficient under conditions of higher energy density than those typically encountered by today's solar arrays?
 
The most obvious impact of concentrating solar power is you'll heat up the panel, which will cause it to be less efficient. So extra cooling would be a good idea. Sure, research could be done into different operating ranges, but I have been under the impression that heat is a fundamental problem for solar power efficiency. But it is possible that positive trade-offs can be made.
 
Isn't it true, though, that the fact that heating causing efficiency losses is an artifact of design? That is, we're currently designing solar panels to be most efficient at normal temperatures. What if we designed them to be most efficient at higher temperatures?
 
The solar constant irradiation is per unit area, so increasing the area of the collector has no beneficial effect on efficiency. PV are semiconductors which operating at higher temperatures will reduce the band gap.
 

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