What are the uses of conditionally convergent infinite series?

In summary: Furthermore:Can you give me an application of that knowledge, please?I cannot give you application to that knowledge. However what would be the point in even mentioning conditionally convergent series if there was not some further application or usefulness to them? I don't see at what you're trying to get?In summary, conditionally convergent infinite series can be rearranged to have any number as the result, and this has some important applications.
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Feldoh
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So we learned about the basic tests for convergence of an infinite series, and we learned about alternating series, and conditional convergence.

Now, I get how to find if a series is conditionally convergent. But what's the use of conditionally convergent infinite series? All we were taught was how to determine if it was one, but not any of the uses of this particular type of series, could anyone elaborate?
 
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Well one cool theorem (by Riemann) about a conditionally convergent infinite series is that by changing the order of the elements in the series you can make it converge to any number - rational or irrational.
 
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What do you mean by "use"?
 
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I mean application of it.

Ok I have a conditionally convergent series, so what? Why is this important?
 
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It's a classification method -- a convergent series does so either absolutely or conditionally. A relevant one too: many theorems about series behaving nicely only apply to absolutely convergent series, and many theorems about series behaving badly only apply to conditionally convergent series.
 
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Yeah I'm starting to realize that... Could you list some of those theorems? I'd like to try and learn them :)
 
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The most prominent has to do with rearranging series. When all the relevant series converge absolutely, you can rearrange the terms in any way you please without changing the answer. And daniel_i_l already stated the complementary fact about conditionally converging sequences.
 
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Feldoh said:
I mean application of it.

Ok I have a conditionally convergent series, so what? Why is this important?
Sigh.
Why is it important to classify an apple as a round fruit and a banana as a long fruit?

Can you give me an application of that knowledge, please?
 
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Feldoh said:
I mean application of it.

Ok I have a conditionally convergent series, so what? Why is this important?
Sigh.
Why is it important to classify an apple as a round fruit and a banana as a long fruit?
Do you understand what would happen to you if you mixed up those descriptions in public?

Furthermore:
Can you give me an application of that knowledge, please?
 
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arildno said:
Sigh.
Why is it important to classify an apple as a round fruit and a banana as a long fruit?
Do you understand what would happen to you if you mixed up those descriptions in public?

Furthermore:
Can you give me an application of that knowledge, please?

I cannot give you application to that knowledge. However what would be the point in even mentioning conditionally convergent series if there was not some further application or usefulness to them? I don't see at what you're trying to get?

Hurkyl said:
The most prominent has to do with rearranging series. When all the relevant series converge absolutely, you can rearrange the terms in any way you please without changing the answer. And daniel_i_l already stated the complementary fact about conditionally converging sequences.

As I see, that seems like a pretty good reason to learn about conditional convergence.
 
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Feldoh said:
I cannot give you application to that knowledge. However what would be the point in even mentioning conditionally convergent series if there was not some further application or usefulness to them? I don't see at what you're trying to get?
Well, you have "negative" application in that unless you have a distinct understanding of the difference between conditionally and absolutely convergent series, you are bound to mix them together conceptually, and hence, misunderstand and misapply other theorems about both of them.
 
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Ok, yes I understand that, but I think I do grasp that difference between the two types. All I was asking was for theorems, etc. involving conditionally convergent series. I don't think it's enough to know about them, but I was just trying to figure out what they are used for. No reason to put me down over that.
 

1. What is conditional convergence?

Conditional convergence, also known as absolute convergence, is a concept in mathematical analysis that describes the behavior of a series as its terms become increasingly larger. It is said to occur when a series converges only when certain conditions are met, such as the values of the terms being within a certain range.

2. How is conditional convergence different from absolute convergence?

The main difference between conditional convergence and absolute convergence is that absolute convergence guarantees convergence of a series regardless of the order of its terms, while conditional convergence only guarantees convergence when certain conditions are met.

3. What are some examples of conditionally convergent series?

One example of a conditionally convergent series is the alternating harmonic series, which is given by the sum of (-1)^n/n. Another example is the alternating geometric series, which is given by the sum of (-1)^n/n^2.

4. How can I determine if a series is conditionally convergent?

To determine if a series is conditionally convergent, you can use the Alternating Series Test, which states that if a series alternates in sign and its terms decrease in magnitude to 0, then it is conditionally convergent. You can also use the Ratio Test or the Root Test to check for conditional convergence.

5. Why is conditional convergence important in mathematics?

Conditional convergence is important in mathematics because it helps us understand the behavior of series and their convergence. It also allows us to identify certain patterns and relationships between terms in a series, which can be useful in various applications such as in the study of power series and Fourier series.

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