# Conservation of Mechanical Energy Problem

1. Dec 9, 2003

### smeagol

This is something I am learning on my own. However, this problem is confusing me:

Red is a girl of mass m who is taking a picnic lunch to her grandmother. She ties a rope of length R to a tree branch over a creek and starts swing from rest at point A, which is a distance R/2 lower than the branch. What is the minimum breaking tension for the rope if it is not to break and drop Red into the creek?

What is this breaking tension thing? I don't quite understand what I am suppose to calculuate.

2. Dec 10, 2003

### himanshu121

The Tension of the rope at the time of breaking will be zero.

Think why it Should be zero?

3. Dec 10, 2003

### ObsessiveMathsFreak

I'll assume you've already calculated the tension on the rope for all points during red's swing.

What is the maximum value for this tension. Lets say it was 100N.

Now lets say that the breaking tension in the rope was 90N. this means that at 90N or more tension, the rope will snap.

So in order that red not plummet to her icy doom the breaking tension will have to be greater that the largest tension the rope expieriences during the swing.

4. Dec 10, 2003

### smeagol

then there's no force pulling on the rope?

Also. How is there anywork done on this? the mass is accelerating toward the center, but movint tangent to the circle?

5. Dec 10, 2003

### Staff: Mentor

When the girl is at the bottom of the swing, she will have maximum speed and the tension in the string (if it doesn't break!) will be maximum.

You can find her speed at the bottom using conservation of energy.

Since she is moving in a circle, you can calculate what the force must be pulling her towards the center. And thus find what the tension in the rope must be. The "breaking tension" of the rope must be greater than the tension at the bottom, else the rope breaks. Make sense?