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Controller input & output

  1. Sep 16, 2014 #1
    hello experts
    I want to write input and output for microcontroller in verilog langugae (8051)

    I have tried to write code

    Code (Text):

    Module mcu (clk, rst, en, p_in, p_out, t_in, t_out, i_in,i_out, rx_in, tx_out ,a0,a1,a2,d0,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,a,b,s0,s1,s2,f,........etc);
    Rst= reset input
    Clk=  clock input
    En= enable input

    Port
    P_in=port input
    P_out= port output

    Timer
    T_in = timer input
    T_out = timer output

    Interrupt
    i_in= input for interrupt
    i_out,= output for interrupt

    ALU
    A=input
    B=input
    So=input
    S1=input
    S2=input
    F=output

    Decoder
    opcode_in
    opcode_out

    ram
    wr
    wd

    ram
    read
    write
    enable

    I have read about pin diagram but I don't understand which pins is used for ALU, decoder rom and ram memory
     
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  3. Sep 23, 2014 #2

    Mark44

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    We don't get many questions like this, so we're not likely to be much help to you. might do a web search for tutorials on how to write verilog code, such as this one - http://www.asic-world.com/verilog/verilog_one_day.html
     
  4. Nov 16, 2014 #3

    meBigGuy

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    I don't understand exactly what you want to do with the verilog. You can create a verilog module for the mcu, but then, within that, you need to create verilog modules for all the functional elements within the mcu that you want to affect the mcu outputs. If you took it to an extreme, within the MCU model you would need to decode instructions from a model of the ROM, and execute them such that they affected the IO with the proper timing.

    On another level, you could build a limited behavorial model, for example you could simply sequence the IO in a defined way to stimulate an external device connected to the mcu model.

    I'm not sure how familiar you are with verilog (the code you supplied isn't legal verilog). Have you ever designed a simple verilog system? For example, an RTL up/down resetable counter module instantiated within a behavorial testbench.

    Let me know what you are really trying to do, and I'll try to help.
     
  5. Nov 17, 2014 #4
    actually I want to make microcontroller on FPGA using verilog code
    I have written some verilog code for counter , alu decoder
    the code that i posted in my post is just sample code

    now I am trying to make some specification
    so I did some homework
    If you can check my work its very good for me


    Q1. If data is 4 bit ,which alu you should have to use
    A . 2 bit ALU
    B . 4 bit ALU
    C 6 bit ALU
    D 8 bit ALU
    my answer . (B) 4 bit alu
    reason : data is 4 so I used 4 bit alu . 4 bit alu deal with 4 bit number like 0001+1010

    Q2. If data is 8 bit,which data memory you should have to use ?
    A. data memory 8 x 256
    B. data memory 4x16
    my answer .A data memory 8 x 256
    reason : If data is 8 bit , ALU is 8 bit so data memory should be 8 x 256

    Q3.If instruction is 4 bit ,which program memory you should have to use ?
    A. program mmory should be 4x16 bit
    B. program mmory should be 8x256 bit
    C program mmory should be 6x64 bit
    my answer A . program memory should be 4x16 bit
    reason : Instruction are 4 bits so program memory should be 4x16 bit

    Q 4. If we have 4 to 16 Instruction decoder , how many instruction it can decode ?
    A. 8 instruction
    B. 16 instruction
    C. 256 instruction
    my answer (B) 16 instruction
    reason : 4 control word can decode 16 instruction


    Q5. Why Program counter is 4 bit ?
    A. 4 bit program counter can address 16 instructions
    B 8 bit program counter can address 256 instructions
    C.16bit 4 bit program counter can address around 6500 instructions
    my answer. A
    because 4 bit program counter can address 16 instructions


    this is not real specification for my design . its just basic Idea . If my idea is correct then I will make real specification and then I will write verilog code
     
  6. Nov 19, 2014 #5

    meBigGuy

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    Why build your own? If it is just for grins, I'd pick something more useful. I'd do something with the 8051 (actually, I wouldn't use an 8051 though)

    Check out the many processors available at:
    http://opencores.org/projects

    And for the 8051:
    http://opencores.org/project,8051

    If you insist on doing your own 8051, then for homework, diagram out the internal execution subcycles of 4 different 8051 instructions (on a stock 8051), including a JSR and a conditional branch. You can pick any instructions.
    What is the longest (most internal clock cycles) 8051 instruction?

    The ALU, program counter, memory, etc are trivial. Hooking it all together and controlling it is the hard part.
     
  7. Nov 19, 2014 #6
    I want to learn some basic then I will do my own design
    I have one zip file for mov instruction

    5 bit opcode + 3 bit register specification
    7 bit opcode + 1 register specification
    8 bit opcode

    5 bit opcode + 3 bit register specification
    MOV A, Rn
    MOV Rn, #immediate
    MOV Rn, direct
    MOV direct, Rn
    MOV Rn, A


    7 bit opcode + 1 register specification

    MOV @Ri, A
    MOV @Ri, direct
    MOV A, @Ri
    MOV direct, @Ri

    8 bit opcode
    8+0 = 8 bit
    MOV A, #immediate
    MOV A, direct
    MOV direct, A



    I think first I have to use ALU then I interface decoder with alu
    I am explaining my work for ALU

    ALU 8 bit
    source , destination
    source 1 8 bit
    source 2 8 bit
    destination 8 bit
    alu carry
    operation code from decoder

    so we know the source of ALU
    data from accumulator
    data from ram memory
    data from register

    how to make ALU For 8051 ?
    Look the following file for mov instruction
     

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  8. Nov 19, 2014 #7

    meBigGuy

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    The execution of an instruction happens over multiple clock cycles. There are many varieties of 8051 with different clock cycles per byte of instruction. Some are 1, some are many. The datapath architecture of your design is dependent on what you decide regarding clocks/byte of instruction.

    You are defining the instruction structure, but not how each instruction is broken down and executed. What data is transferred on each clock cycle of the instruction.

    The classic 8051 is 12 clock cycles per byte of instruction. Instructions are 1 to 4 bytes, meaning 12 to 48 clock cycles.

    The atmel 8051 is 1 cycle per byte of instruction, so instructions are 1 to 4 cycles.

    The process of scheduling the operation of each instruction drives the architecture of the design.

    Check this out:
    http://archive.org/details/bitsavers_intel80518liminaryArchitecturalSpecificationMay80_6120863/

    It is an old style 8051, but it illustrates what you need. I didn't find a complete document for a single cycle 8051, but this sort of addresses it:
    http://www.cs.unc.edu/~vicci/comp261/project/mcu/80251_prog_man.pdf
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2014
  9. Nov 20, 2014 #8
    first of all thank you for your cooperation

    I am sharing my big doubt
    8051 Instruction set
    5 bit opcode + 3 bit register specification
    7 bit opcode + 1 register specification
    8 bit opcode

    5 bit opcode that allow 32 operations
    7 bit opcode that allow 128 oprations
    8 bit opcode that allow 256 operations

    Many ALU can directly access program memory . so they use registers

    · Accumulator register
    · Rn register (R0 to R7)
    · Ram memory
    · Program memory
    · Instruction decoder
    · Program counter
    · ALU (arithmetic and Logic unit)
    · PSW register

    5 bit opcode + 3 bit register specification
    Example
    MOV A, Rn
    11101 n n n

    7 bit opcode + 1 register specification
    MOV @Ri, A

    1111011i

    8 bit opcode
    MOV A, direct

    11100101 direct

    5 bit opcode + 3 bit register specification
    7 bit opcode + 1 register specification
    8 bit opcode


    Q I don’t understand whats the use of three different Instruction format, how they execute ?

    I am not sure but look my answer


    I think, first two format they don’t use Instruction decoder. Data store directly to respective register, To execute this type of Instruction they don’t use ALU

    Last formmet , I think it use Instruction decoder

    how the different instruction execute in different format ?
     
  10. Nov 20, 2014 #9

    meBigGuy

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    I don't know the 8051 to that level of detail, but some processors always pass data through the ALU to get to the registers. They OR with 0, or add 0.

    I'm not going to be able to tell you exactly how to decode instructions to perform the operations you require.

    You are going to have to study all of the operations required by every instruction and design the logic to make it happen.

    There are open source designs out there you can learn from, but they seem to be vhdl.
     
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