Exploring the Convergence of Transcendental Numbers

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In summary, there are many different ways to converge to numbers other than e, such as using the function f(x) converging to F which will make ##e^{f(x)}## converge to ##G=e^F##. This rule works for every continuous function. Every real number can be written as an infinite decimal expansion, including transcendental numbers like pi. While e and pi have unique ways to define them and series that converge to their values, this is not always the case for other numbers. There are infinite ways to represent e or pi as series, and even series using one number to approximate the other. Different numbers can have wildly different series converging to them.
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e is the limit of an exponential of a number that is approaching one. The exponential makes it want to blow up, but the closeness to 1 keeps that in check. It's really a remarkable number!

My question is, how easy is it to find ways to converge to arbitrary numbers other then e? Almost every number is transcendental so they require such a convergence. A very few of them have fascinatingly concise series, and a remarkable variety of ways to get to that number. But for the rest, how do we get to them?
 
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If f(x) converges to F, then ##e^{f(x)}## converges to ##G=e^F##. For every positive G there is a suitable F=log(G).
This is not limited to exponentiation, this rule works for every continuous function. If f(x) converges to F, then ##2*f(x)## converges to ##G=2*F##.

What do you mean with "get" a number? Here is a transcendal number: ##\pi##.
 
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Every real number can be written as a decimal and, for any irrational number (and most rational numbers), that decimal expansion is an infinite decimal expansion. That is, every such number, which includes all transcendental numbers, can be written as the infinite sequence of it decimal expansions. For example, [itex]\pi[/itex] is the limit of the infinite sequence 3, 3.1, 3.14, 3.141, 3.1415, 3.14159, 3.141592, 3.1415926, ...
 
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I have a hard time phrasing this question, so my apologies in advance. e and pi are both very special numbers, with very special properties. Not only do they have really cool ways to define them, but a variety of series converge to exactly their values. That is, a variety of series without arbitrary constants. To me, that's awesomely amazing.

The series that let us know the value of e look nothing like the series that let us know the value of pi. This is true in general, isn't it? Two different numbers could be close to each other in value but have wildly different series convergent to them, and this remains true even as they get increasingly close to each other, as long as they remain different. Is that a true statement?
 
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but a variety of series converge to exactly their values

This is true for many series. For example:

[tex]\frac{1}{1} + \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{16} + ... = 2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{1} + \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{6} + \frac{1}{10} + \frac{1}{15} + ... = 2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{3}{1} - \frac{3}{2} + \frac{3}{4} - \frac{3}{8} + \frac{3}{16} - ... = 2[/tex]
 

1. What are transcendental numbers?

Transcendental numbers are real numbers that cannot be expressed as the solution to any polynomial equation with rational coefficients. In other words, they are numbers that are not algebraic and cannot be written as a finite or repeating decimal.

2. How do transcendental numbers relate to the convergence of series?

The convergence of a series is a mathematical concept that determines whether the sum of a sequence of terms approaches a finite value. Transcendental numbers play a role in this concept because they can be used as the limit of a convergent series, which means that the series will never reach a finite value.

3. Can transcendental numbers be calculated or approximated?

Yes, transcendental numbers can be calculated or approximated using various mathematical methods. However, due to their infinite and unpredictable nature, they can only be approximated to a certain number of decimal places.

4. What is the significance of exploring the convergence of transcendental numbers?

The convergence of transcendental numbers is significant because it helps us understand the limitations and complexities of our number system. It also has practical applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and computer science.

5. Are there any famous examples of transcendental numbers?

Yes, there are several famous examples of transcendental numbers, including pi (π), e (Euler's number), and the golden ratio (φ). These numbers have been studied and used for centuries and have important applications in various areas of mathematics and science.

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